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Old Jul 10th 2014, 12:43 PM   #1
 
  Nov 2012
  Garnett, Kansas
cambria, serif 14ptAmerican Cervid Alliance Sets the Record Straight with Chronic Wasting Disease Facts


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The American Cervid Alliance (ACA) represents an alliance of 36 state and national associations whose primary mission is the enhancement of the farmed cervid industry across the United States and Canada. In its ongoing effort to educate the public concerning the true facts of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD), its affects on farmed and free ranging cervids, and to dispel many myths surrounding CWD, the ACA issues the following facts as they pertain to the disease in general and the false attacks on a legitimate agriculture industry in particular.



•** *Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) is not only a farmed deer issue; there are 9 States that have CWD in free-ranging wild deer/elk that do not have it in farmed deer/elk.


•** *Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) has been found in whitetail deer, mule deer, elk, red deer, sika deer, and moose.* It has not been found to naturally cross the species barrier.* In other words it does not affect humans or domestic livestock.


•** *Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) has never been found in a farmed whitetail deer that has crossed state lines since the monitoring program was established in 2002.


•** *Farmed cervid breeders, who are enrolled in their state’s Herd Certification Program, are required to test 100% of their eligible mortalities.* After 5 years of monitoring they may engage in interstate commerce as long as they remain in the program and continue to test all eligible mortalities.* They also have to test negative for TB and Brucellosis or their herd has to be TB accredited and Brucellosis certified.** A vast majority of herds have been participating in these programs since 2002, which establishes more than 10 years of surveillance for most cervid farms.


•** *Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) has not been shown by itself to have any significant impact on the wild cervid populations in CWD endemic states such as Colorado, Wyoming or Wisconsin.* Science has shown that the decline in the mule deer populations over the past few years in these western states have been from urban sprawl, drought, oil industry expansion, over hunting and depredation.


•** *Wildlife Agencies are exempt from the protocols established in USDA/APHIS’s Federal CWD rule for transportation of wild cervids across state lines.


•** *The farmed cervid industry tests an average of 22,000 deer per year and has only found CWD test positives (not clinical disease) in less than 0.05% of those tested.* This is a very low prevalence rate when compared to truly devastating diseases such as Anthrax and Epizootic Hemorrhagic (EHD).


•** *Research has shown that the CWD prion may be transported by other vectors such as alfalfa, corn, carrion birds, and carcass movement.


•** *The farmed cervid industry has some of the most stringent rules in place governing the interstate movement of deer when compared to other animal industries.


•** *The regulation of the farmed cervid industry, in some states, is under that state’s Department of Ag.* The advantage to having the farmed cervid industry under the state’s animal health agency is because they are better equipped and more knowledgeable of animal diseases than state wildlife agencies.


•** *The farmed cervid industry spends a tremendous amount of money on research of not only CWD, but other more devastating diseases such as EHD that effect both wild and captive deer.* Research on deer diseases funded by the deer industry would be virtually nonexistent if this industry does not exist.


•** *Most hunters want to harvest a trophy whitetail buck or elk bull. The average age of a cervid harvested in the wild is 18 month while the average age of a wild cervid harvested on a conservation ranch or preserve is 3 years old.* The farmed cervid industry, through a combination of genetics, nutrition, and age is producing a product that is far superior to anything found in the wild.


•** *Drug residue, in all food producing animals and especially cervids, such as antibiotics and chemical immobilization drugs are under scrutiny from many sources.* The cervid industry is spending literally tens of thousands of dollars on drug tissue residue research to make sure our cervids are healthy and are chemical free when consumed by the public.* The farmed cervid industry has the highest ethical standards and will not tolerate and in fact condemns any practice that does not reflect these high standards and ethical behavior.


•** *The farmed cervid industry is a legitimate agriculture industry.* To demonize this entire industry through bad science, myths and misinformation is wrong.


•** *The farmed cervid industry creates thousands of jobs. This industry has literally saved family farms and can be accomplished on marginal land that is not suited for other agriculture industries.

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Old Jul 10th 2014, 02:23 PM   #2
 
  Jul 2009


These types of things should be introduced into court cases and places that makes a real difference to the industry not just among the choir.. **
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Old Jul 10th 2014, 02:59 PM   #3
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  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
Rodney

You are engaged and battling. IDEFA is not! That is the problem. The IDEFA board needs understand it is necessary to be engaged in dialog with the ACA or they are going to lose my support. The ACA facilitated getting Dr Davis article published in the Indy Star. Our Idefa board was oblivious to it. Board members can post their bucks on deer forums buck can't participate on ACA conference calls??? You have ask the board for help but they will not request the assistance of the ACA. RIDICULOUS
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Old Jul 10th 2014, 05:19 PM   #4
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN
Rodney,

What about by-laws do you not understand? It's not that they don't want to, it's they can't. IdEFA can participate but they choose not to. Why you keep bashing the ACA for obvious reasons you should understand is beyond me.
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Old Jul 10th 2014, 05:33 PM   #5
 
  Sep 2012
  Clear Lake, Iowa
This is a really great fact sheet we can all use when speaking to legislators and policy makers in every state! Great job and thank you, ACA!
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Old Jul 10th 2014, 05:36 PM   #6
 
  Nov 2012
  Garnett, Kansas


Hotrod,


We posted these true CWD facts that have been incorporated in several of our news articles that have have been picked up by numerous media outlets, including your hometown IndyStar.* Our messages and responses are getting out to the public thanks to the American Cervid Alliance and their VOLUNTEERS and member associations that donate time and funds for the PR campaign to make this possible.


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We posted the CWD facts on this forum for the deer farmers to have a concise fact bank to see and memorize for their own knowledge.* They were also in our ACA eblast that went out to thousands of cervid farmers earlier today..


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Thank you to Bell, Rhonda and Jerrilee and everyone else for the support of the industry's alliance.*
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Old Jul 10th 2014, 05:55 PM   #7
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  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
The ACA is an incredible FREE resource. Why not use it? There are some of our industries brightest voluntarily offering their combined knowledge and assistance. Idefa not taking advantage of this opportunity is baffling to me. I don't understand it. I am very frustrated. My work schedule keeps me away from home 15 hrs a day. I cannot be on the board. My wife has a doctors appointment on the day of our next board meeting. If she isn't induced to have our baby that day, I plan on skipping work and going to our Idefa board meeting. I will ask them why they are not participating and post the response I get under this thread.
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Old Jul 10th 2014, 07:02 PM   #8
 
  Jul 2009


Jerrilee- There is a difference between by laws and politics, Thinkers and Doer's,* Being part of the problem or part of the solution,* You should have learned that by now.* While you sit idle the rest of us are keeping your farm open, that is my whole problem with people or organizations that put personal egos or politics ahead of the big picture. We have seen countless beginners like you come and go but we remain to fight the fight.* Even though it has nothing to do with us preserve owners I plan to find out why the deer farmers and the ACA are in a pi**ing match.* By accepting failure you will surely fail, that simply is not in my blood.
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Old Jul 10th 2014, 07:35 PM   #9
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  Sep 2010
  Indiana

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Rodney

I will be up front and say Idefa is a JOKE!! Are you a MEMBER?? NO!! When Jerrilee was on the board was you at the meetings?? NO!! Now you can sit there and say what YOU have done for Indiana deer farmers? Nothing!! Now you can say I am new.... Well yes, but I know the past and I know what is going on now, and IDEFA will NOT get another dime from me. Yes there are a few of you guys that have the lawsuit so YOU can operate. But that dont a damn thing for new guys wanting to open one. And for a closed state..... Hell thats what you guys want!!!! There are over 300 farms in the state and you guys dont buy a hand full of deer. I had guys begging me to sell there deer for them last year because they got paid what they was worth, and fhat was more then some guys hunts are here. And if in so good with IDEFA why did you have a seperate bill this past year in legislative? Why not join Idefa on theirs. And as long as Ohio stays deer farmer friendly, I will keep my preserve there!!!

By the way GREAT JOB ACA!!!
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Old Jul 10th 2014, 11:37 PM   #10
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN


Instead of being part of the problem maybe you should listen in on an ACA conference call, anyone can log in and listen, before you say at the ACA is a part of the problem.*Have you been on ONE conference call.* *There are people on the ACA working tirelessly for this industry.* Farmers?preserve owners? aren't we**all one as an industry in the BIG PICTURE? So why try to divide with*yet another wedge?? And I don't think anyone wants to accept failure.* It doesn't matter if a person has been in this industry one year or 20.* Its what you want to bring to the table and doing your homework. Sure people come and go,its the same no matter what industry you look at.* *People*of all industries*come and go because the get*burned during the purchase process or the selling process. Its a wonder our business partners are still in this business after getting burned on selling to a preserve.
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Old Jul 11th 2014, 07:04 AM   #11
 
  Jul 2009


Clearview,- If you follow whats going on in Indiana you would see the victory we got last September opened up the entire state to open a preserve.* I fougth for EVERYONE's rights and right now you or anyone else could open a preserve and operate.* I would say that pretty important thing to have done for deer farmers.* Now whether you are willing to take the time, money and effort to jump in and be a part of the industry is another thing.*


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I have never been comfortable being led to slaughter in a group while everyone talks about how great things are and that we are safe because we are together.* Thats a good philosophy if you are right !* But jump ship if the direction is wrong.* Anyone with common since knew the other lawsuit in Indiana was nothing short of a stunt or scam.* If we would have sit around and talked about how good it was and we were all safe Indiana would be DONE right now.*


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When evaluating a situation.you need not look farther than who is doing stuff and who is getting actual results.* 90% is just talk, they flower it up and make it sound good and tell you all the "clicks" are involved so people just file in.* The other 10% will take the issue straight on and talk through the court or.through legislature and get results that you can see and use to move forward.*


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When I evaluate a new person or organization I look at what they actually do.* The precedence being set in Indiana in the next couple months is one of the most important in the industry today.* Absolutely is the most important thing that will ever happen to Indiana deer farms and Preserves.* So I dont care if its IDEFA, NADEFA , ACA or and individual if they do not help us in this fight "for everyone" then they are misguided in their efforts and should do whatever is needed to start helping an industry instead of themselves or hand selected friends.* If you are going to claim to be collecting money and using it for the industry then do it.* IDEFA and NADEFA have stepped up and are currently helping save our rights in Indiana, the ACA is not.* Thats the cold hard facts.* The ACA did tell me to have IDEFA contact them and make a request so Monday I am going to do just that.* If an individual at IDEFA is respnsible for the ACA sitting idle then they need to answer to everyone.* Im not afraid of stepping on toes to get people either engaged or out of the way.* The ACA potentially could do a lot of good, I just want to see it get there as far as Indiana is concerned,
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Old Jul 11th 2014, 12:08 PM   #12
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN
'' I fougth for EVERYONE's rights and right now you or anyone else could open a preserve and operate. I would say that pretty important thing to have done for deer farmers. ''


I don't ever know if it's the sheep or the wolf talking. My memory is not so short as to remember that just last year you introduced a bill selling out the other 8 preserves that were shut down in 2006, and no others could open. The bill would only have allowed for 4 preserves to operate. EVERYONE????? Not to mention the bill you put fort this year that prevented IDEFA's from having any chance. And what about you bill years ago with the sunset clause that would have eventually closed down ALL preserves?

The Indiana suit would have been appealed if the president would have relayed to the board what the lawyers response was after the courts decision.

Yes this suit is very important, but How are we to know a deal won't be made behind closed doors?

Just because someone has not given money to this cause does not mean they have not given money to this industry in other places and they should not be bashed for it BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO IDEA!
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Old Jul 11th 2014, 12:35 PM   #13
 
  Jul 2009


You have not been included in legislation or in court cases because you simply have not been engaged to have a clue as to what is going on.* Everyone knows and has known for a long time the Indy writer Ryan is 100% for shutting us down and yet you brought him to your farm.* Is that because you are Naive or do you have other motives.* Thats why you are not included in legislation or court issues.* The half truths you posted above are exactly in line with how Ryan writes.* All we can ask is that you do nothing more to damage our industry and let the ones engaged fight for our rights.*
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Old Jul 11th 2014, 01:03 PM   #14
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  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
All deer farmers interest should be included engaged or not. This reflects the way the judge ruled in your case. The ruling indeed made way for any Indiana resident to open a preserve whether they were previously engaged in the court case or not. I do think you have fought this battle harder than anyone in the state. I also believe it is more admirable to fight for everyone's opportunity.

Jerri Lee has made a big difference behind the scenes with her professional relationships with leadership in our BOAH. I know both she and my Dad have always fought for everyone on every issue. We have all certainly made our share of mistakes.

If I discuss this further I would like to under Members Only.
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Old Jul 11th 2014, 01:38 PM   #15
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  Sep 2010
  Indiana

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Rodney you have no idea what is going on with my farm. I have special motives??? Really... We fought the fight with you until we seen motives on your side that we did not like. Then motives from IDEFA. If you think I want a closed state your totally wrong. And as for sabalow coming to my farm I have nothing to hide. And Robert told me he was at your place with a hunter. So whats your motive. I will talk to anybody and show them my farm, because I am damn proud of my operation. And as for starting a preserve here.... I am smarter than that. I will say it to everybody... I am for every farmer and preserve but you try to stab my back you lose my respect, and thats where idefa is. I probably have one of the biggest farms in the state and if you think I have a motive your totally wrong.
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