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Old Jun 24th 2013, 06:55 PM   #91
 
  Sep 2012
  Clear Lake, Iowa
Yes, it is unfortunate for my buck having to be destroyed. If I could have had my way he would still be at our breed facility. As you can see on my home page, Tom and my granddaughter are feeding him a carrot. He looks healthy and friendly; hence the reason to share the photograph in the first place. However, come breeding season he became a liability to us and our employees. The person who shot the buck. a personal friend, was made aware of the situation prior and was handled in such a manner to assure that nobody was injured by this particular buck. Technically, this buck was not "hunted". Here in Iowa we are required to test 100%.



Now someone explain to me why we should not be compensated for our losses? What does any of the above have to do with putting us out of business and handing us a bill to do it?



Below is an email I responded to following some of my communications in regard to bottle feeding with goats milk.



Rose, (Whitetail Sales & Service)



Sorry it has taken me a bit to get back to you. Below are the links for research whereas scrapies has been found to naturally transmit from the ewe to the lamb through milk. While it is a possibility that this is how we contracted CWD, we will never know for sure. Our first positive buck was bottle fed with fresh, non homogenized, and frozen fresh goat's colostrum. While this could be the way of transmission into our herd, it is probably just as likely I could by a lottery ticket tomorrow and win.



So frustrating.





http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/nahss/s..._0907_2010.pdf



http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/pub..._no_115=260467



Thank you,



Rhonda
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Old Jun 24th 2013, 07:58 PM   #92
 
  Aug 2009
  Wisconsin
Apparently Tim did not read Roger's post stating that some of this could be handled with personal emails. To kick a person when they are down is a very low blow....every one of us needs to put themselves in the Brakke's situation and realize how we would feel if we were being put out of business without movement or indemnification...I personally could not afford to feed my animals without one or the other.



Rhonda, I am so sorry that others cannot understand what you and Tom are going through and continue to sling mud at you even though you are both fighting for the right's of all of the other cervid producers in the country without the entire industry's support.
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Old Jun 25th 2013, 04:37 AM   #93
 
  Sep 2012
  Clear Lake, Iowa
Thank you, Lautie. I don't have anything left but blood. I won't be bullied. We are being treated like criminals. Have already been to court for a criminal investigation brought on by DNR officers near the lodge. We must have done something criminal to have gotten CWD. Thank goodness we got a clean judge who threw it out.



We've handed over 5 years in tax returns, cash flow statements, client information, people we did business with, and loads of deer information. The hits keep coming.
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Old Jun 25th 2013, 04:48 AM   #94
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  Oct 2009
  upstate ny

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Originally Posted by Rhonda Brakke
Thank you, Lautie. I don't have anything left but blood. I won't be bullied. We are being treated like criminals. Have already been to court for a criminal investigation brought on by DNR officers near the lodge. We must have done something criminal to have gotten CWD. Thank goodness we got a clean judge who threw it out.



We've handed over 5 years in tax returns, cash flow statements, client information, people we did business with, and loads of deer information. The hits keep coming.


That must be a state thing. As barbaric as our Ny laws and rules are even our state guy says Iowa could have,Should have done things a little different in your cwd case. As much as cwd has shown itself not to be and has not done what all the guys with phd's said it would, Cwd will still be a death sentence for most farms because nobody would buy your animals and most hunters that are not up to date on Cwd would not want to go on our ranches!

I believe its more about the public knowledge that we need to make sure is seen about Cwd. Kieth Warren did a great job on the clip i saw again last Sunday!
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Old Jun 25th 2013, 06:05 AM   #95
 
  Sep 2012
  Clear Lake, Iowa
Yes it is an Iowa thing. For those of you who know Jerry Campbell, call him. He can tell u he has never witnessed anything like our case in all the years he has done business.
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Old Jun 25th 2013, 11:36 AM   #96
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  Oct 2009
  upstate ny

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Originally Posted by Rhonda Brakke
Yes it is an Iowa thing. For those of you who know Jerry Campbell, call him. He can tell u he has never witnessed anything like our case in all the years he has done business.


So the rumor mill on another website talks of you guys locking gates open and taking down fence in a cwd positive area? I have to tell the truth and say if its false or you did it, I cant say i would not do the same. You would be hard pressed to find any farmer that owns the property, Have been hung over the coals over something nobody even has the real true facts about like you guys have, would not do the same!
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Old Jun 25th 2013, 12:16 PM   #97
 
  Jul 2009
Our industry is a good example of how you cant beat the system. Not many people really know or care what has happened in Indiana because we are all too busy fighting our own fight in our own state. In 1998 I decided to start a hunting preserve. Since laws were not clear I wrote the DNR and ask if it was legal in Indiana. They responded IN WRITING yes its legal. I spent a fortune and built one. In 2005 a new Director who hated high fence hunting said he viewed the law differently and said we were not legal and informed us we could no longer operate. No compensation, no law change, no nothing, just close up business. I filed suit and won a temporary injunction against the DNR. Then I added all the other preserves (11) so they would be protected a well. The DNR director at the hearing where I was awarded the injunction told me afterwards that I may win in my hick town but did not stand a chance when I got to his town (Indianapolis). So after years and years of unsuccessful negotiating, hearings and legislative attempts our case/industry is coming to an end . If I win locally we will go to the appellant court in Indianapolis where we all know what will happen. The problem with this whole thing is that the State truly feels it is ok to give you written permission to start a business and then after you invest a quarter of a million dollars say they changed their mind. You are out of business with no compensation whatsoever. That is why our industry will not survive long term, you cant beat the system. No matter what anyone says hunting especial our type of hunting is not growing and becoming more accepted. I have been involved in this fight as much as anyone in the industry and have been able to keep us operating since 2005 but they pick us off one preserve and one state at a time. 80 % of deer farmers feel it will never get to them but when the end markets are gone there is going to be some very expensive hamburgers in freezers. My point in all of this is that they dont even have to find CWD on your farm to shut you down and cost you a bunch of money. And 9 out of 10 attorneys will tell you the same thing, you cant beat the government..... they are above the laws, regulations and common sense the rest of us have to abide by.
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