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Old Jun 5th 2012, 06:16 PM   #1
 
  Oct 2011
  buckville
Hello, can someone give me advice how to stop owls or hawks from killing fawns I know we cannot kill them for it is against wv state law, I thought about wire or scarecrow? has anyone else had this problem. If so what can we do. I am setting up a trail cam to try to see whats happening. they cannot get out and no sign of anything digging under. Its coming from the sky???? help please. thanks
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Old Jun 5th 2012, 06:55 PM   #2
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  Oct 2009
  upstate ny

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Some would say to use the 3 S's Shoot,Shovel,Shut Up!!!! Did i just say that out loud!!
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Old Jun 5th 2012, 07:10 PM   #3
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  Jul 2009
  Deer Park, Alabama

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A wire cage bird trap does wonders. They see the birds flopping around in it and, well, I can't help it if they fly into it and break their neck.
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Old Jun 5th 2012, 07:12 PM   #4
 
  Apr 2009
  Fombell PA
I would say...night....owl would be the culprit.......day eagle or hawk......hope you can figure out the issue....SSS.....they it works sometimes........
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Old Jun 6th 2012, 05:15 PM   #5
 
  Oct 2011
  buckville
wow, Im going to try to run wire above the pens in chris cross patten and I just thought

the poor fawns had to only worry about the cyotes no wonder they are disapearring in the wild.
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Old Jun 6th 2012, 06:02 PM   #6
 
  May 2009
  Northwest Illinois
Reed Remraf - What evidence do you have and/or what makes you think it is an owl or hawk?

What is the condition of the fawns you are finding dead, ie the wounds that are present on them? How soon after these deaths are you finding them? What time of day, etc?

I don't ask these questions because I don't believe it can happen, but it would be unusual I would think.

I've witnessed eagles sweep my pen low before, as well as a huge hawk(Goshawk I think) once.

If it is an owl, it would apt be a Great Horned owl. Are they indigenous(sp) to your area?
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Old Jun 6th 2012, 06:11 PM   #7
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  May 2009
  Chillicothe, Missouri
If it is coming from the air...................Wire criss crossed above the pens,May proviide an excellent perch to really survey the pens!

I know in these parts a leg hold trap set ontop of a post is...................DEADLY!
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Old Jun 6th 2012, 06:42 PM   #8
 
  Oct 2011
  buckville
Mark they are just dissappering no sign of death no tracks blood no holes in fence? others said sky? I am setting up trail cam just in case its a theif? we have moved all babys and mothers in same pen was told this may help 3 does still have not bare yet.also grasses are high but checked over and over they are masters at hiding will keep you all posted.
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Old Jun 6th 2012, 06:49 PM   #9
 
  Oct 2011
  buckville
In our state its like a year manditory if you pull a feather off any wild bird .
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Old Jun 7th 2012, 03:54 AM   #10
 
  May 2009
  Northwest Illinois
Reed - If your grasses are high in these pens and you have a decent sized pen at all, I would suggest to you that those fawns might still be in there. Like you said...they are masters at hiding. I've walked by them numerous times when there wasn't ANY grass at all...about all they need is a stick to lay by and you can't see them, absolutely amazing how they blend in.

The fact that you have tall grass in your pen might also lessen the chance of birds being responsible. Just my opinion...but yes, please keep us posted.
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Old Jun 7th 2012, 04:47 AM   #11
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  Nov 2010
  Annville, PA

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Reed, I have an idea so please call me to discuss, maybe it could help
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Old Jun 7th 2012, 06:44 AM   #12
 
  Feb 2010
  Sardinia, Ohio
Reed

I don't know the size of your pens, but we used to raise Quail. Cutler Supply sells flight pen netting. It is available in very large sizes and is very similar to a batting cage netting.

This stuff would be great for stretching over a fawn pen. It is available in up to 2" squares.
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Old Jun 7th 2012, 06:47 AM   #13
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  May 2009
  Chillicothe, Missouri
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Originally Posted by REED REMRAF
In our state its like a year manditory if you pull a feather off any wild bird .


In my state you can get a special permit to remove problem animals!
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Old Jun 7th 2012, 06:55 AM   #14
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  Nov 2010
  Annville, PA

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Originally Posted by Majestic Whitetails
Reed

I don't know the size of your pens, but we used to raise Quail. Cutler Supply sells flight pen netting. It is available in very large sizes and is very similar to a batting cage netting.

This stuff would be great for stretching over a fawn pen. It is available in up to 2" squares.


That is exactly what I sell and I am sure a lower cost as well and also what I would recommend if in fact that is the issue, thanks Joe, I used to sell the netting to Cutlers that they sold
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Old Jun 7th 2012, 07:40 AM   #15
 
  Feb 2010
  Sardinia, Ohio
No problem Henry.

I am sorry for mentioning Cutlers, I had no idea you sold it.

It is some great stuff.
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