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Old Aug 19th 2014, 02:20 PM   #16
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That is ashamed that no one was brought in with credentials. Looks like that opportunity was squandered!
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Old Aug 19th 2014, 02:23 PM   #17
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There were 3 from the board that spoke and a member. These situations your better to have more speakers with some clout with high recognition.


Thought we were lacking a couple big guns with#'s. Charly would have been another great addition. He's commanding when he speaks with tons of info too and a great off the cuff speaker. Too bad the ACA was not asked to be involved.
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Old Aug 19th 2014, 04:39 PM   #18
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It is nothing short of stupid!
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Old Aug 19th 2014, 07:48 PM   #19
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Sabalow tonight




Indiana lawmakers discuss deer import ban, as feds decide against it



Ryan Sabalow, ryan.sabalow@indystar.com 8:52 p.m. EDT August 19, 2014




Federal agricultural officials say they will not restrict the interstate shipment of captive deer — despite disease concerns raised by scientists and six members of Congress.


That decision, outlined in a letter from U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack, comes as a summer study committee made up of Indiana lawmakers met Tuesday to consider — among other things — a possible ban on deer imports.


So far, 21 states have issued such bans, fearing the spread of the always-fatal deer ailment, chronic wasting disease.


Vilsack said new rules for the nation's deer farms do enough to prevent the spread of chronic wasting disease and bovine tuberculosis, while promoting the burgeoning deer industry, which primarily breeds deer with enormous antlers to be shot on fenced hunting preserved.







INDYSTAR


Buck Fever Intro: An investigation of captive deer hunting, breeding industry



In a letter to U.S. Rep. Jim Moran, D-Virginia, Vilsack said the federal agency believes it has struck the right balance in "improving the domestic and international marketability" of the nation's deer farms while also keeping "strong safeguards" in place to prevent the spread of disease.


"This is consistent with our successful approaches to addressing a number of other livestock diseases in the United States," Vilsack wrote. Moran and five other Democrats had requested a ban.


The decision leaves the matter to states like Indiana, where consensus is not easy to obtain. In Missouri the governor recently vetoed its legislature after it tried to block the state's wildlife agency which had called for ban on imports.



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A summer session to discuss the issue of various diseases, including Chronic Wasting Disease on captive deer in Indiana, occurs Aug. 19, 2014, at the Indiana Statehouse, Indianapolis.(Photo: Robert Scheer/The Star)



In Indiana, lawmakers heard four hours of testimony Tuesday, but the panel appeared no closer to making a decision on that front.


Both the study session and Moran's concerns were in response to an Indianapolis Star investigation that uncovered case after case linking the industry to the spread of chronic wasting disease.


Lawmakers heard from four wildlife disease experts called to testify by the Indiana Department of Natural Resources. They cited documented cases in which the interstate captive-deer industry was linked to the spread of diseases. They also testified that CWD is spreading rapidly among wild herds in some states and states have spent millions of dollars trying to contain the disease.


CWD, a brain disease similar to mad cow, has been found in 22 states. The Star's investigation revealed that in half of those states, CWD was found first in a commercial deer operation. There is no approved live test for the disease, and wildlife officials across the country say escapes from deer farms and preserves are common.


But the panel also heard testimony from four in-state veterinarians who said current disease testing requirements from the Indiana Board of Animal Health are more than adequate.


"We have probably one of the most robust regulatory structures in the country as far as keeping CWD out," said Darryl Ragland, a Purdue University veterinarian who works for deer farmers. "We have a program in place that is working."


While the committee was largely silent, and asked only a few questions, it became clear that at least some lawmakers were leaning in one direction.


State Rep. Sean Eberhart, chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, repeatedly pointed out that there's nothing to stop wild deer infected CWD from walking into the state, so why crack down on deer farmers.


Bryan Richards, chronic wasting disease project leader at the U.S. Geological Survey, responded that CWD spreads slowly in the wild, but if "we put it in a truck, we can move disease at 65, 70 mph across the landscape."


"Will it get here over time? Certainly a possibility. Do you want it sooner or later?" Richards said. "That's something I believe that through preventative measures, you can have an impact on time of arrival."


Shawn Schafer, executive director of the North American Deer Farmers Association, countered such testimony by saying that his industry is participating in new research that may some day create a CWD vaccine and a reliable live test for the disease. Schafer noted his industry also was instrumental in developing a blood test for bovine TB that has dramatically reduced its spread in captive deer. Vilsack in his letter also noted that there have been no cases of TB in a deer farm since 2009.


"The industry is here for the solution," Schafer said. "We're not part of the problem."


Myron Miller, vice president of the Indiana Deer and Elk Farmers Association, also explained how far farmers are willing to go to keep their herds disease free. He described how he had to shoot a $10,000 breeding doe that had come from an out-of-state facility suspected of having CWD so that it could be tested for the disease.


He said that he was glad to do so to ensure his herds were free of the disease, but that didn't make any less emotionally and financially painful.


"We bore that burden," Miller said.


The committee will reconvene at a later date to determine whether to issue recommendations to the legislature for a possible change in state law.


Call Star reporter Ryan Sabalow at (317) 444-6179. Follow him on Twitter:@ryansabalow.



http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2...cide/14312391/
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Old Aug 20th 2014, 03:37 AM   #20
 
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Kip Adams, QDMA ,Sabalow, and others are no more than environmental terrorists. *Are they any different than the Talaban or Iceis in the Middle-East? *They are out to destroy any one that does not believe in their radical beliefs or views of a religion. *Are Kip Adams, QDMA, Sabalow, and others any different? *If we do not fit into their model of what "their" opinion of a hunting experience should be, they condemn us. *They are going into direct opposition of what the founders of Pope & Youngs mission statement, which basically says , *no one, or the masses, *should not tell you what a good hunting experience should be. *Funny how things change over 100 years. *Most of us were born on farms and have lived the country life, raised and cared for livestock our entire lives. *It's funny how these "weekend" warriors think they have all the answers, and know more about livestock, than we do.
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Old Aug 20th 2014, 02:24 PM   #21
 
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We had a very successful meeting at the state house.* This was supposed to be the time for the DNR to put the final nail in the coffin and they fell embarrassingly short.* I fully expected to get our a** handed to us but it was just the opposite.* Their speakers were boring and so biased the committee members paid little attention.* I would have liked to have seen a couple more "bigshots" from out of State involved on our behalf but a couple couldn't make it and others have declined to participate in Indiana.* Shawn Shaffer does deserve much credit and a big thank you for participating along with everyone else who testified. I cant share everything because you know this is read by our opposition but it was a very good day for us.*
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Old Aug 20th 2014, 02:44 PM   #22
 
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segment from news.*** http://www.theindychannel.com/news/l...deer-preserves
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Old Aug 20th 2014, 03:01 PM   #23
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Why is the HSUS even mentioned in the article when all they are saying is it is unfair for an animal to be hunted? Like I told one of our Senators, the issue is not wether you would hunt in a preserve, the issue is do farms and preserves spread CWD. No one should be able to define what hunting means to someone. Thanks for the update.
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Old Aug 20th 2014, 03:18 PM   #24
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Thing is This was supposed to be limited to cwd and if it was there would have been 2.5 hours of testimony instead of 5 because everyone wanted to talk about ethical hunting or preserves. Almost didn't have time for Shawn Shafer to talk!
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Old Aug 20th 2014, 05:59 PM   #25
 
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We had a very successful meeting at the state house.* This was supposed to be the time for the DNR to put the final nail in the coffin and they fell embarrassingly short.* I fully expected to get our a** handed to us but it was just the opposite.* Their speakers were boring and so biased the committee members paid little attention.* I would have liked to have seen a couple more "bigshots" from out of State involved on our behalf but a couple couldn't make it and others have declined to participate in Indiana.* Shawn Shaffer does deserve much credit and a big thank you for participating along with everyone else who testified. I cant share everything because you know this is read by our opposition but it was a very good day for us.




This is great to hear! I sure hope this is a step in the right direction for you guys!
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