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Old Sep 12th 2014, 09:52 AM   #1
 
  Nov 2012
  Garnett, Kansas


18pxMinnesota Red Deer Herd Depopulated
No New CWD Positives Found


American Cervid Alliance Newsroom

September 12, 2014


In August 2014, the Minnesota red deer herd known as North Oaks Farm LLC was depopulated after the discovery of a CWD positive red deer hind more than two years ago. This farm was home to more than 500 red deer. *


One CWD positive hind was found in the herd in May 2012.* The herd was immediately quarantined. The owners voluntarily euthanized all the other deer that shared the pen with the hind. No new positives were found.* There was no state or federal indemnity available at that time to depopulate the herd. The Minnesota Board of Animal Health, the United States Department of Agriculture and the state of Illinois allowed the herd owners to move a portion of the red deer herd to a slaughter facility and be tested for CWD. Again, no new positives were found.** Finally, when Congress reinstated a portion of the federal CWD indemnity funds in 2014, a herd plan and depopulation order was signed.


According to the Minnesota Board of Animal Health, the United States Department of Agriculture did not allow any research testing in addition to the normal CWD test to be completed during the final depopulation of the CWD exposed herd.* This caused great displeasure in the cervid industry, as research testing was allowed in recent cervid herd depopulations in Pennsylvania and Iowa.


After the final depopulation, the final results showed no additional CWD positives.* This ending shows Minnesota’s largest red deer farm, home to 500 red deer where one CWD positive animal was found in 2012, had no other findings.*


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http://www.americancervidalliance.org/news.cfm?id=138
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Old Sep 12th 2014, 10:02 AM   #2
 
  Jan 2014
  Pipe Creek ,Texas


sounds communist to me all that good meat to waste cwd does not effect humans I thought ? what a bunch of crooks this country has become T&S
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Old Sep 12th 2014, 10:07 AM   #3
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  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
This further explains why the wild populations are thriving in CWD hot zones. That doesn't sound very much like an infectious disease that is going to wipe out or be any real detriment to any states deer population .
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Old Sep 13th 2014, 01:20 PM   #4
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN
I'm sorry but this just shows how barbaric all of this CRAP is. As I have said before it would be over my dead body! We need to demand these animals be used for research and meat be processed. Our society is so wasteful! To just throw carcass aside for the sake of power. This is where nadefa and the people of this industry need to step up and say NO MORE!!!
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Old Sep 13th 2014, 02:03 PM   #5
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  upstate ny

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I'm sorry but this just shows how barbaric all of this CRAP is. As I have said before it would be over my dead body! We need to demand these animals be used for research and meat be processed. Our society is so wasteful! To just throw carcass aside for the sake of power. This is where nadefa and the people of this industry need to step up and say NO MORE!!!And that won't happen untill lawsuits are thrown from every corner if every state that has cervid farming! They are not getting a fight back so they are worried about nothing and we show no threat!
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Old Sep 13th 2014, 04:23 PM   #6
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN
Dang text predict

Maybe we should start cervix farming we might get more hunters on board Lmao

You had to go and change it!
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Old Sep 14th 2014, 05:11 AM   #7
 
  Sep 2012
  Clear Lake, Iowa
Even worse, their land is quarantined for five years for one positive out of 500 animals. USAHA Kansas City if you want to make a change.


Gary, How much an acre does the property in that area bring? I would guess $10-20,000 per acre or more??
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Old Sep 14th 2014, 07:20 AM   #8
 
  Nov 2010
  Lanesboro, Minnesota


The farm is IN North Oaks, on the north side of Minneapolis. *North Oaks was recently named in a survey to have the highest average income in the state of Minnesota. * There are multi-million dollar homes all around that farm. *I would bet lots around there would bring $200,000 to $500,000 and more for larger acreages. *This is one of highest valued real estate markets in Minnesota.*


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Old Sep 15th 2014, 11:53 PM   #9
 
  Sep 2014
  Lancaster, PA


That is a very interesting article re that herd having no additional CWD positives out of 500 animals. It would seem to call into question the "science" behind the current CWD craze and concern. Clearly if CWD was even half as contagious as they claim it is, there would have been more animals testing positive for CWD when they depopulated their herd. Four Seasons Whitetails makes a good point. While we are unfortunatley an overly litigious society, easily jumping into lawsuits, the fact is that there is a good deal of truth to that old adage "The squeaky wheel gets the grease", and in this case it is the CWD fanatics that are the "squeaky wheel". With the consistently mounting news stories about CWD and the deer farming industry being the culprit and supposedly a threat to the Nation's wildlife, it would seem to be time to begin aggressively defending the rights of the deer farmer, and, perhaps with the Minnesota case as an example, begin working to try and debunk and deflect some of the CWD hysteria. There's no doubt that many legislators in many States, legislate in a knee jerk fashion, often reacting to high profile news stories that are out in the public eye, so that they (the legislator) can seem to be on top of things. When you look at the situation in Indiana for instance, with the Governor taking the summer to mull over border closure due to CWD concerns, it's obvious that we are way past the point where CWD is going to be a tiny blip on the radar of the deer farming industry. We don't want to find ourselves in the "too little, too late" category. The time to vigorously advocate (politically, legislatively and thru proactive legal action) is now.
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Old Sep 16th 2014, 12:01 AM   #10
 
  Sep 2014
  Lancaster, PA


I would add another comment on this topic. With the recent high profile success of the "Blackfish" documentary (bashing Sea World re their handling of killer whales) I would suspect that the anti-hunting and anti-preserve hunting groups might well try the same thing regarding hunting and deer farming. In this day and age of the Internet, Twitter and other aspects of social media, it can take only a matter of days for an issue to "go viral" as the saying goes. All the more reason for deer farmers across the Nation to act now to do everything possible to safeguard the industry and to advocate for the industry. I realize that most deer farmers are small entrepreneurs and no doubt many of us have the mindset "well, what can I do, I'm only one person" but I think all deer farmers need to be putting pressure on their National and State deer farming representatives to make it clear to the various State Governments that, while we perhaps understand their concerns, we want this issue dealt with in a rational manner, not with knee jerk reactions, not with hysteria, not with pandering to news media, etc.. The findings in this Minnesota incident should give any rational mind pause as to some of the current "wisdom" about CWD.
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Old Sep 16th 2014, 04:14 AM   #11
 
  Nov 2010
  Lanesboro, Minnesota


I talked to Dr. Hartman yesterday. *He confirmed to me that there was no new positives at the Red Deer farm. *What sucks for the Red Deer farm is, they are STILL required to quarantine their property for 5 years, even with just one positive, as per herd plan!!!!! *They get NO compensation for their land.
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Old Sep 16th 2014, 05:07 AM   #12
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  Markleville IN
As a industry we need to push for compensation for loss of land use!!!
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Old Sep 16th 2014, 06:25 AM   #13
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  Oct 2009
  upstate ny

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Gary, I would be the guy in jail because the way I see it is that they depopulated me to the point where I no longer have a herd so the fences would come down! No Herd!!! No Plan Any Longer Needed!
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Old Sep 16th 2014, 07:21 AM   #14
 
  Nov 2010
  Lanesboro, Minnesota


Here is the value of the land and homes that the 500 head of Red Deer were on in North Oaks.


How would you like to own land that lots were selling for $349,000, and have your land quarantined for 5 years?


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(0,0,0);Georgia, Palatino, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;15pxNorth Oaks Homes for Sale: MLS Listings on*CBBurnet.com


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Active Listing

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Lowest Price

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Average Price

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Highest Price

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Single Family

57

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$298,500

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$950,309

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$2,785,000

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Townhome

3

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$499,900

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$737,966

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$919,000

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Lots & Land

1

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$349,000

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$349,000

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$349,000

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(0,0,0);Georgia, Palatino, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;15pxAs of 9/16/2014
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Old Sep 16th 2014, 10:18 AM   #15
 
  Sep 2012
  Clear Lake, Iowa
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As a industry we need to push for compensation for loss of land use!!!




To do this, every deer farm state in this country needs to send a minimum of two representatives to USAHA meeting in Kansas City in October. *All land quarantines should be based off of an epidemiological investigation (CWD exposure, tracebacks vs natural additions vs. acre size) following the depopulation of each property. *


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If memory serves me correctly, five year land quarantines are not in the CWD rule. *It was developed in the CWD Standards. *The Standards can be changed. Taking people's property for five years and expecting the owner to maintain the property and fence is serious which can bring extreme hardship to the property owner. *


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AND wildlife should never been allowed to be exempted from the CWD rule.
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