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Old Sep 11th 2014, 05:40 AM   #31
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The Missouri deer farmers should target the ones that voted against this in the upcoming elections.* They should be made to feel the pressure of the land owners.* Get the land owners on your side.* This is a property rights issue.*
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 05:59 AM   #32
 
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The Missouri deer farmers should target the ones that voted against this in the upcoming elections.* They should be made to feel the pressure of the land owners.* Get the land owners on your side.* This is a property rights issue.



You are right Brett. All the guys in MO fought and lobbyed extremely hard! I will be the first to say I have great respect for all they have done and will do. I believe the big culprit is the MDC, they have way too much power, money and infuence on legislation. Unfortunately that is the way most of our government works!
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 07:55 AM   #33
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It was a long night we got it passed un the Senate but lost in the house by 1 vote


Thanks for all the help
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 09:52 AM   #34
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When you get a republican governor use all your resources to repeal the law that gives the MDC their gravy train.
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 11:22 AM   #35
 
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  Cape Girardeau, MO


I hate to say but my representative whom I emailed about staying with her YES vote Kathy Swan was one that changed her vote to NO. I have just emailed her my feelings on her switch. Also Rep Kelly had a plan all along and *to defeat this. The Rep from Jefferson Co, Roorda, had a yes vote punched in yet he voted NO the first time back in May. The voting session was left opening for longer than usual for a vote. Another who switched was Rep Zerr from St. Charles CO who had voted Yes the first time seeing that there would be enough votes changed to a NO and when the Speaker closed the voting.....ROORDA flipped his switch back last second....which he had planned all along. BUT if my Rep would of stayed with a Yes and Zerr then it would of been overridden. The games people play. Everyone check the Mo Ethics committee and be watching for who donates to these people. It will not show up till around Oct. 15 and if they accept money late then it wont show up till Nov 15.*


I heard the the emotions in that room after the count was gut wrenching of those that did not vote as they thought they had the votes. They did not want to go against the governor if they did not have to vote...that is not government for the people!!!


Also *someone noted when Roorda flipped his switch from yes to no that he laughed about it. Laughed!!! Sad day for Missouri government.*
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 12:24 PM   #36
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I hate to say but my representative whom I emailed about staying with her YES vote Kathy Swan was one that changed her vote to NO. I have just emailed her my feelings on her switch. Also Rep Kelly had a plan all along and to defeat this. The Rep from Jefferson Co, Roorda, had a yes vote punched in yet he voted NO the first time back in May. The voting session was left opening for longer than usual for a vote. Another who switched was Rep Zerr from St. Charles CO who had voted Yes the first time seeing that there would be enough votes changed to a NO and when the Speaker closed the voting.....ROORDA flipped his switch back last second....which he had planned all along. BUT if my Rep would of stayed with a Yes and Zerr then it would of been overridden. The games people play. Everyone check the Mo Ethics committee and be watching for who donates to these people. It will not show up till around Oct. 15 and if they accept money late then it wont show up till Nov 15.

I heard the the emotions in that room after the count was gut wrenching of those that did not vote as they thought they had the votes. They did not want to go against the governor if they did not have to vote...that is not government for the people!!!

Also someone noted when Roorda flipped his switch from yes to no that he laughed about it. Laughed!!! Sad day for Missouri government.


Yep thats exactly how it happened. There was a ton of emotion after the vote close and we realized we were one short and for the way it happened. It was my first time at the capitol and I didnt no what to expect but now I am even more ashamed at our government and the way our laws are made. Its all about $$$$$ and nothing more very sad.
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 12:45 PM   #37
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i would suggest it is all about the vote.* Kick their a$$ out of office.* You have an election coming up soon.* Target the ones who voted no and support the ones who voted yes.* It is passed time the people in this country wake up.
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 03:23 PM   #38
 
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  Pierre SD


This just confirms the state of our country right now, a clear over reach by gov't and an agency who has absolutely no purpose running the private cervid farming industry. They can see the wildlife*quality and populations crashing all the way around them and see*more and more people wanting to*manage their own deer on their OWN PROPERTY THE WAY*WE SEE FIT. I don't know one private landowner in the country who would*choose having the DNR people manage the deer on*their property*rather then*be able to have the choice to do it themselves. Anything privately run is run better then any gov't agency can do working Monday-Friday, 8-5. These people get paid to breed voter numbers and the sad facts are we are outnumbered by liberals. One day sooner then we think, they will be coming to take*the food we as farmers and ranchers raise because the "poor" people don't have enough to eat. Look at what the "feed the hungry" program has done to the countries deer populations. They*preached shooting*antlerless deer and get a free voucher that pays for processing if you donate it to the hungry.*Somehow they think*the few deer left would be some how better deer. Now most all the states numbers are going backwards on populations*and they can't figure out why. It has to be the handful of CWD deer found on deer*farms. Unbelievable ****
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 03:48 PM   #39
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The owners of Bass pro and Drury inn were actively against us as well I would ask that no deer farmer ever patronize either of these place ever again and spread the word.
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 04:16 PM   #40
 
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  Lanesboro, Minnesota


Thought this was fitting:


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margin:0in 0in .0001pt; ;(0,0,0) ;13.5ptIsn't It Ironic?
margin:0in 0in .0001pt; ;(0,0,0) ;13.5ptThe food stamp program, part of the Department of Agriculture, is pleased to be distributing the greatest amount of food stamps ever.
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;13.5ptMeanwhile, the Park Service,*also part*of the Department of Agriculture, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals" because*the animals may grow dependent and not learn to take care of themselves.
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margin:0in 0in .0001pt; ;(0,0,0) ;10pt*How true is this about government?
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 04:25 PM   #41
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Thanks for the info Randy. I will spread the word to all my family, friends, and co-workers. Cabelas is a better store anyway. We have a corporate account both places. The one will be closed today.
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 05:01 PM   #42
 
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About Bass Pro:

http://confedmo.org/bass-pro-shops-f...-captive-deer/
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 05:41 PM   #43
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Cabelas it is!
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 07:23 PM   #44
 
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The owners of Bass pro and Jury inn were actively against us as well I would ask that no deer farmer ever patronize either of these place ever again and spread the word.


Good to know. Thank you for sharing this information.
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Old Sep 11th 2014, 08:05 PM   #45
 
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No more Bass Pro for me... Thanks for the info...
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