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Old Mar 13th 2010, 03:46 PM   #1
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  May 2009
  Chillicothe, Missouri
I was just wondering what a persons reason was for being a member or what some of the reasons were why you don't join ? Just got to thinking on a past post on here it was stated that thier was around 8,000 deerfarmers so i was looking at my NADEFA members directory I could only come up with 1,351 members listed on the back inside cover. This included the U.S.A & CANADA as well as members in AUSTRAILA,NEW ZELAND and MEXICO. So if there are 8,000 deerfarmer that would mean there are 6,649 who are not members! And just was wondering why? Is it the $100. cost ? or was it something else ?

If we could get those 6,649 deerfarmers to join that would be a $664,900.00

Does anyone think that would make a difference? Could we fund any of our "BRAIN STORMING'" .............With that little boost ? Any feed back would be appreciated!
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Old Mar 14th 2010, 06:03 AM   #2
 
  Apr 2009
  Fombell PA
Wyane,

There is no good reason for NOT being a NADeFA memeber if you are a deer farmer and want to see this industry around for a while. When you look at the big picture with the cost of breeding the deer as well as care and feed for the animals the extra $100.00 dollars is really just a drop in the bucket and is so important whenit comes to the future of our Industry. I wish there was a way to make it mandatory to be a member but we know that can't happen!!
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Old Mar 14th 2010, 06:57 AM   #3
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  Oct 2009
  upstate ny

Cervid: Whitetail Deer
So true with me just becoming a member and recieving all the goodies in the mail from what i see so far, a person with any intrest in this deer thing has to be crazy not to be a member.With all this cwd crap and every other issue that we have to deal with we need them in our corner in every fight that comes our way!
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Old Mar 14th 2010, 08:18 AM   #4
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  Apr 2009
  Vaughn, MT 59487

Cervid: mule deer,whitetail,elk,goats,bighorn & stone sheep & Alaskan dahl sheep
Even though Montana has lost most rights as a deer farmer you have to be a member so that money can help others. I don't want to see other States get in the position that we in Montana are. I also know that when critics win and take away your ability to make the good money that can be made in this industry you will no longer be able to fight the good fight as you will not have the extra cash to support your fight. Every deer farmer should send in the membership fee to help others and in turn help themselves.
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Old Mar 14th 2010, 08:25 AM   #5
 
  Apr 2009
  Nowata, OK
In Oklahoma, both associations will pay half of their members NADeFA dues. Seems to be a great way to boost memberships. NADeFA is a great association and is on the front lines protecting our rights. If your not a member, please join TODAY...
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Old Mar 14th 2010, 07:14 PM   #6
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  Apr 2009
  West Salem, Ohio

Cervid: Whitetails
Every Cervid farmer/Rancher needs to be a member of NADEFA, who else or what group has done and is currently doing more to promote and protect our interests, we should also be a member of our state organizations......



Browning Whitetails is a Proud member of NADEFA and WDFO
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Old Mar 14th 2010, 07:28 PM   #7
 
  Aug 2009
  Everett, PA
Good question Whitetail Sanctuary. I am not a member of NADEFA but have donated to NADEFA enough for 52 years of memberships.

If the 1351 members would have donated the same, it would amount to $7,092,750

I support NADEFA and other stare associations. But members of these associations must know others donate in ways they do not realize. Many non members donate what they can not afford to.

Once we build a deer association together we have to protect it and its assets to be good stewards. It confuses everything. Even love get redefined as that which protects the association and unloving to breeders who do not.

We give our affection as breeders to those who serve our interest.

I personally feel our loyalty for the deer industry should not focus on a membership card.

I also wish every one could afford to be members.

Just my opinion my friend. Hope you are getting the answers you are looking for.
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Old Mar 15th 2010, 06:36 AM   #8
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  Apr 2009
  Mineral Point, MO
Wisdom,



You say that you give to NADEFA but your not a member that just don't make sence because the focus is on the membership card.



The more members NADEFA has the stronger they are when they take the fight to congress because in Washington numbers mean everything.



I also think if you want to get this thing off the ground you are starting then you need to show your support as a member of NADEFA first.
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Old Mar 15th 2010, 01:04 PM   #9
 
  Apr 2009
  Fombell PA
no I agree it is important to be a member. Power comes in numbers and the more members they can show the more power they have....Everyone should be ablr to join NadefA., It is just like anything else...it is a choice! I we have enough money to be raising deer then you have enough money to join Nadefa! There is absolutely NO good reason not to be a member unless your on the oppositions side!
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Old Mar 15th 2010, 04:45 PM   #10
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  May 2009
  Chillicothe, Missouri
Wisdom, I'm confused..........You say you donate to NADEFA in other ways like what ? On your thread the "PLAN" you ask for help from NADEFA and state associations to help implement your "PLAN" but you cant support them in return ? I don't know you or your situation......but i offered to help you and your efforts blindly,beacuse I believe in this industry whole hartedly and want to see it keep growing. I have heard it said before people don't join this group or that but when you or anyone else needs HELP in this industry....................WHO do we always ask for help from? Please help us understand! This is why i didn't ask this on the open forum didn't want to bash just asking!
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Old Mar 15th 2010, 05:13 PM   #11
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  Apr 2009
  Edgar, WI

Cervid: deer
Wisdom I for one am sick of hearing you talk about how much you have given over the years. Why is it you feel the need to try and show how great of a guy you are??? The fact you seem to know how much you have given sickens me. My wife and I have given as well to this industry, but we have no idea how much because it isn't a competition and shouldn't be important either. We give because it is for the betterment of the industry and not to cover for a guilty mind nor to gain popularity among the growers.



As to being or not being a member goes I do think everyone should be a member of both NADEFA and at the very least their own state org. Membership numbers are important because they give power to those who speak for the membership and the industry. What lawmaker would listen to someone if they represent a handful of their industry.

We are proudly members of our state and national org and several other state orgs as well. What we have donated to all these orgs is unknown and proud of it.
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Old Mar 15th 2010, 06:11 PM   #12
 
  Apr 2009
  Polk, PA located in west central pa
Why do you ask these questions? He donates and supports them obviously if they take his donation maybe they should put his name on the list.I don't think he is trying to brag just trying to make point that he does support industry. From what i see he is one of the few who sees were the industries focus needs to be. That is on the end market that is finding people to shoot all these bucks we grow.More new people means more new deer this means a flooded shooter market.Some may not make most of there money from shooters but most in the industry do that is a fact.So instead of giving this guy a hard time get behind him and help support what is going to be best for the industry in the long run. More hunters not more breeders.
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Old Mar 15th 2010, 06:23 PM   #13
 
  Aug 2009
  Everett, PA
Roger you claim to be a follower of Christ or Christian.

Out of the mouth speaks the condition of the heart.

Perhaps you should reread many of your post and compare them inspired words of the Holy Spirit as to what a true believer is.

1co 13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing. 1co 13:4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 1co 13:5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 1co 13:6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 1co 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 1co 13:8 Love never fails.



Looking forward to seeing you in person at the NADEFA conference

Rodger
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Old Mar 15th 2010, 06:34 PM   #14
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  Oct 2009
  upstate ny

Cervid: Whitetail Deer
I think the heart is in the right place i just believe its to big of an undertaking for 1,2 3,or15 people donating to a cause.It needs to be givin to a more powerful source to get it started.Wishful thinking but it will never work as you can see there is some thousands of deer farmers and very few givers.Most will just keep on keepin on doin the best they can do with what they got!!!
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Old Mar 15th 2010, 07:06 PM   #15
 
  Aug 2009
  Everett, PA
I was just telling my two sons today. I am not sure if the problems in the deer industry can be solved. My one son was surprised at what I just had said.

Adam commented: Dad you always speak so positive about the deer industry and you have built your dreams around it. What are you talking about?

My reply to my son Adam was: The deer industry is so divided, I do not know if it can be put back together again. Very few people want to try and greed keeps others from acknowledging the truth. There is a lot more going on behind closed doors than most realize concerning our industry
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