Deer Farmer

Hershey's Huntin Haven

I was just told that Kentucky Voluntarily closed their borders today.

Bell

Who made this call?

Voluntarily?

Will cattle interstate movements be stopped VOLUNTARILY during EHD season too?

If not why are deer ranchers being ostracized???

Hershey's Huntin Haven

Jonathan, Trying to get more info. Just got a text around 7.*

G O Whitetails

When is this industry going to grow a backbone, and go after these states for a commerce act violation? *These states want to close their borders to our deer industry, yet want to continue to import elk from "unmonitored" wild herds, to release and spread disease. *Also they don't monitor their borders for carcass movements in the fall. *It's the duty of the states commissioners of commerce to protect their states industries from trade violations from other states. *This looks like a slam dunk to me.

Hotrod

In the short run that is a great deal for the breeders.* For the next 3 to 5 yrs the breeders will cash in on the preserves and new farms starting up.* By the five yr mark though the preserve will learn to become self sufficient and basically shut the breeders down.* What a vicious circle.* One thing for sure, the market is much stronger for the states with closed borders.* Look at Texas and Alabama.* I personally think all borders will be shut down within a few years anyway, thats why there needs to be a decent balance of preserves and breeders in each state.* I cant believe this was not rumored prior to closure though.

SJames

Gary...you are correct..I would think the states of Minnesota, Iowa, and others would be filing suit against MDC for violating interstate commerce. You all should be talking to your attorney generals........

G O Whitetails

Sam, I have plans to. * Would the state of California get away banning Florida oranges, or vs versa? *

SJames

Missouri is currently suing California for closing thier borders to our eggs....hmmmmm...I smell a double standard

Four Seasons Whitetails

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In the short run that is a great deal for the breeders.* For the next 3 to 5 yrs the breeders will cash in on the preserves and new farms starting up.* By the five yr mark though the preserve will learn to become self sufficient and basically shut the breeders down.* What a vicious circle.* One thing for sure, the market is much stronger for the states with closed borders.* Look at Texas and Alabama.* I personally think all borders will be shut down within a few years anyway, thats why there needs to be a decent balance of preserves and breeders in each state.* I cant believe this was not rumored prior to closure though.




Dont fool yourself my friend. We are closed and we have gained nothing. If anything, We have lost. i bought out 2 farms last fall myself and i know of others that closed up shop. Until NADEFA or someone starts a lawsuit on any state that closes we will be shut down as an industry and then only those that raise their own and also have hunts will survive. My land is going up into a bow hunting only preserve starting this spring. *Until judges get involved we will keep losing borders.

Hotrod

Four Seasons,* I understand your point and feel for you guys. I do feel Kentucky breeders would cash in right now though because they are finally shooting some deer there and there is not enough deer in the state to supply the preserves so you can bet their shooters will bring big money compared to other states.* In Indiana would be the opposite if borders shut down both directions, there is basically 100 farms per each preserve.* Preserves would be high cotton for a couple years till more open up or everyone quit.* Lets hope these scenarios don't happen but better be prepared rather than surprised.*

G O Whitetails

If we could get the Commissioners of Commerce in our states to file suits against these states for trade violations, *it wouldn't cost us a dime. *This is their job to protect their states industries. *

Wild Rivers Whitetails

Does Kentucky even have any preserves?*

Hotrod

Yes, Kentucky does have a few preserves shooting some deer.

jerrilee cave

As long we have organizations that only worry about themselves and not about the health of this industry this will keep happening. There are people in this industry that can help make a change , but their hands are tied. Too many people just care about themselves and the the greater good of themselves. SAD!!! I applaud Missouri for their efforts to right the ship and put everything in place for the industry of their state to flourish.

IndependenceRanch

When a few select people are allowed to dictate policy and plans do you think that power is exercised for the good of all? Of course not. It is for their own personal gain. They buy that power and use it to further their own personal agendas.