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Old Feb 7th 2015, 05:30 PM   #1
 
  Jul 2012
  Russellville, KY


I was just told that Kentucky Voluntarily closed their borders today.
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Old Feb 7th 2015, 06:33 PM   #2
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  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
Who made this call?

Voluntarily?

Will cattle interstate movements be stopped VOLUNTARILY during EHD season too?

If not why are deer ranchers being ostracized???
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Old Feb 7th 2015, 07:01 PM   #3
 
  Jul 2012
  Russellville, KY


Jonathan, Trying to get more info. Just got a text around 7.*
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Old Feb 7th 2015, 07:14 PM   #4
 
  Nov 2010
  Lanesboro, Minnesota


When is this industry going to grow a backbone, and go after these states for a commerce act violation? *These states want to close their borders to our deer industry, yet want to continue to import elk from "unmonitored" wild herds, to release and spread disease. *Also they don't monitor their borders for carcass movements in the fall. *It's the duty of the states commissioners of commerce to protect their states industries from trade violations from other states. *This looks like a slam dunk to me.
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Old Feb 7th 2015, 07:15 PM   #5
 
  Jul 2009


In the short run that is a great deal for the breeders.* For the next 3 to 5 yrs the breeders will cash in on the preserves and new farms starting up.* By the five yr mark though the preserve will learn to become self sufficient and basically shut the breeders down.* What a vicious circle.* One thing for sure, the market is much stronger for the states with closed borders.* Look at Texas and Alabama.* I personally think all borders will be shut down within a few years anyway, thats why there needs to be a decent balance of preserves and breeders in each state.* I cant believe this was not rumored prior to closure though.
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Old Feb 7th 2015, 07:21 PM   #6
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  Apr 2009
  Columbia, MO

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Gary...you are correct..I would think the states of Minnesota, Iowa, and others would be filing suit against MDC for violating interstate commerce. You all should be talking to your attorney generals........
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Old Feb 7th 2015, 07:24 PM   #7
 
  Nov 2010
  Lanesboro, Minnesota


Sam, I have plans to. * Would the state of California get away banning Florida oranges, or vs versa? *
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Old Feb 7th 2015, 07:28 PM   #8
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  Apr 2009
  Columbia, MO

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Missouri is currently suing California for closing thier borders to our eggs....hmmmmm...I smell a double standard
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Old Feb 7th 2015, 07:28 PM   #9
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  Oct 2009
  upstate ny

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In the short run that is a great deal for the breeders.* For the next 3 to 5 yrs the breeders will cash in on the preserves and new farms starting up.* By the five yr mark though the preserve will learn to become self sufficient and basically shut the breeders down.* What a vicious circle.* One thing for sure, the market is much stronger for the states with closed borders.* Look at Texas and Alabama.* I personally think all borders will be shut down within a few years anyway, thats why there needs to be a decent balance of preserves and breeders in each state.* I cant believe this was not rumored prior to closure though.




Dont fool yourself my friend. We are closed and we have gained nothing. If anything, We have lost. i bought out 2 farms last fall myself and i know of others that closed up shop. Until NADEFA or someone starts a lawsuit on any state that closes we will be shut down as an industry and then only those that raise their own and also have hunts will survive. My land is going up into a bow hunting only preserve starting this spring. *Until judges get involved we will keep losing borders.
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Old Feb 7th 2015, 07:46 PM   #10
 
  Jul 2009


Four Seasons,* I understand your point and feel for you guys. I do feel Kentucky breeders would cash in right now though because they are finally shooting some deer there and there is not enough deer in the state to supply the preserves so you can bet their shooters will bring big money compared to other states.* In Indiana would be the opposite if borders shut down both directions, there is basically 100 farms per each preserve.* Preserves would be high cotton for a couple years till more open up or everyone quit.* Lets hope these scenarios don't happen but better be prepared rather than surprised.*
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Old Feb 7th 2015, 07:55 PM   #11
 
  Nov 2010
  Lanesboro, Minnesota


If we could get the Commissioners of Commerce in our states to file suits against these states for trade violations, *it wouldn't cost us a dime. *This is their job to protect their states industries. *
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Old Feb 8th 2015, 06:06 AM   #12
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  Apr 2009
  Northeast Wisconsin

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Does Kentucky even have any preserves?*
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Old Feb 8th 2015, 06:22 AM   #13
 
  Jul 2009


Yes, Kentucky does have a few preserves shooting some deer.
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Old Feb 8th 2015, 03:06 PM   #14
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN
As long we have organizations that only worry about themselves and not about the health of this industry this will keep happening. There are people in this industry that can help make a change , but their hands are tied. Too many people just care about themselves and the the greater good of themselves. SAD!!! I applaud Missouri for their efforts to right the ship and put everything in place for the industry of their state to flourish.
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Old Feb 9th 2015, 06:48 AM   #15
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  Edgar, WI

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When a few select people are allowed to dictate policy and plans do you think that power is exercised for the good of all? Of course not. It is for their own personal gain. They buy that power and use it to further their own personal agendas.
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