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Old Jun 20th 2014, 10:07 AM   #1
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  Aug 2012
  Billings, MO
http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article584789/Protect-Missouri’s-deer-from-disease-with-reasonable-rules.html


It is bad enough that these articles are written without facts, but the fact that the MDC linked it on their FB page knowing it is untruthful really crosses the line. Is this not the same thing as them lying to the public? I will be so happy when we move under the Department of Ag. I really feel like this move will take place. I pray I am right.
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Old Jun 20th 2014, 10:47 AM   #2
 
  Jan 2014
  Pipe Creek ,Texas


poppy cock sick people we love the deer more than they do you think we want dying deer or sick deer wow they might be the ones sick T&S
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Old Jun 20th 2014, 11:23 AM   #3
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Sam should submit his letter as an editorial! There is a place at the bottom of the page. We should bombard them with then. The more and more I read this crap the more and more I like uncle Ted lol
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Old Jun 20th 2014, 11:27 AM   #4
 
  Nov 2010
  Lanesboro, Minnesota


More of the same old BS. *Lies, lies. lies. * *


Brad, you guys in Missouri need to respond in the comments or editorial rebuttals to the writer.


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Old Jun 20th 2014, 11:58 AM   #5
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I did all ready on the MDC FB page. If I see something on there, I reply ASAP so anyone leaving comments will see it. The problem I run into with newspapers is I want it short enough that they might use some of their newspaper space to print it, but I have too much to say. It is hard to find a happy medium. I know another article will be coming out from the AP. The writer called me yesterday. From his previous article, he is not against us and seems to print both sides of the story. He noticed the letters to the governor to veto outnumber us 5 to 1. If anyone has time, feel free to send a letter to even out the numbers. He said he might use some of my letter in his article. We will see how selective he is. He liked the part where I said my kindergarten son wants to be a deer farmer when he grows up, do not take that opportunity away from him. He also spoke with Sam.
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Old Jun 20th 2014, 12:36 PM   #6
 
  Nov 2010
  Lanesboro, Minnesota


I sent a 4 page letter to your Governor . * I had a lot to say too! *LOL *


There was a comment by Kelly.... in the comment section of this article. *Good facts, done well.


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Old Jun 20th 2014, 01:11 PM   #7
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  Columbia, MO

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We are working on it with the PR group....I will do whatever they think is best....seems this one is over the top and could be grounds for a defamation law suit.
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Old Jun 20th 2014, 01:54 PM   #8
 
  Sep 2012
  Clear Lake, Iowa
Give them enough rope .... They are desperate.
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Old Jun 20th 2014, 01:57 PM   #9
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  Billings, MO
Good to know Sam. It was one thing for someone to write it, it is worse for a paper to print it, and unacceptable for the MDC to support.
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Old Jun 20th 2014, 05:02 PM   #10
 
  Nov 2010
  Lanesboro, Minnesota


Brad, *Steve Jones , from NoMoCWD.org., is commenting on this article. *Give him a bad time. *I did.


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Old Jun 21st 2014, 10:00 AM   #11
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We are working on it with the PR group....I will do whatever they think is best....seems this one is over the top and could be grounds for a defamation law suit.

A law suit is exactly what is needed!
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Old Jun 21st 2014, 10:29 AM   #12
 
  Nov 2010
  Lanesboro, Minnesota


Steve Jones is at it again! *His comments of Keith Warren's sponsors are a little over the top! *Newport Labs. and DNA Solutions should take him to task over this!!! *He made these comments on a public site. *Record Rack should quote him in their adds. LOL *Being an outdoor writer, that he boasts about, he needs to be a little more diplomatic in his wordings.


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Warren has all the credibility of a carnival barker. Here's his sponsors:


Beem Fence Company (high-fence for facilities)

Bruton Easy Pull Trailers (for hauling captive deer)

Deer Guardian Misting System (for watering captive deer)

Game Management Software (for monitoring and scoring captive deer)

North American Deer Farmers Association (enough said)
0000ffRecord Rack Deer Feed (for growing mutant-sized racks on captive deer)

Whitetail Sales and Service (for selling captive deer)
Newport Laboratories (for genetically mutating captive deer)

BuckBreeders.Com (for online registration of captive deer)
DNA Solutions (for genetically mutating captive deer)

North American Deer Registry (for registration of captive deer)

Pneu-Dart (for tranquilizing captive deer)

Shock Effect Probiotics (antler supplement for captive deer)
Keith Warren’s Texas Hidden Springs Ranch (his captive deer killing preserve)


And don't kid yourself about the Missouri Legislature. They didn't actually listen to both sides. I doubt they really listened to either side. They just recognized an opportunity to take a shot at the MDC and seized it. It's their favorite thing and you were just a convenient excuse.


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Old Jun 21st 2014, 10:52 AM   #13
 
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Its only going to more prevalent until everyone stands up and fights. All this BS has been introduced into* court as facts as well by the antis.* We are doing something about it, you can to by helping file an amicus brief to bring the facts out.* If you've had enough join the fight on the "Here's your chance" thread on members only.
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Old Jun 21st 2014, 10:57 AM   #14
 
  Nov 2010
  Lanesboro, Minnesota


Found this, *it was written in 1908. *Interesting comments.


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(26,26,26);' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxSnips USDA from report:
(26,26,26);' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxIssued July 29, 1908.
(26,26,26);' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxU. S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE.
(26,26,26);' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxFARMERS' BULLETIN 330.
(26,26,26);' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxDEER FARMING IN THE UNITED STATES.
(26,26,26);' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxT ' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxhe good effect of such preserves on the supply of game in the State should not be overlooked (26,26,26);' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12px. While they may temporarily restrict the hunting privileges of a few citizens, they ultimately become a source of game supply secondary in importance only to State preserves or game refuges. Already a number of private reserves have become overstocked, and game has escaped or been turned over to the State to become the prop (26,26,26);' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxerty of the people. ' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxThe success of private enterprise in propagating large game in enclosures has thus become an object lesson for State game commissioners and others, and suggests the feasibility of the State's undertaking a similar work for the people.
(26,26,26);' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxThe wapiti and the Virginia deer can be raised successfully and cheaply under many different conditions of food and climate. The production of venison and the rearing of both species for stocking parks ' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12px may be made profitable industries in the United States.


' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxInstead of hampering breeders by restrictions, as at present, State laws should be so modified as to encourage the raising of deer, elk, and other animals as a source of profit to the individual and to the State.


(26,26,26);' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxSafeguards against the destruction and sale of wild deer in place of domesticated deer are not difficult to enforce. For this purpose..a system of licensing private parks, and of tagging deer or carcasses sold or shipped, so that they may be easily identified, is recommended.

It is believed that with favorable legislation much otherwise ' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12px, waste land in the United States may be utilized for the production of venison so as to yield profitable returns, (26,26,26);' ', 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, ;12pxand also that this excellent and nutritious meat, instead of being denied to 99 per cent of the population of the country, may become as common and as cheap in our markets as mutton.
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Old Jun 29th 2014, 09:00 AM   #15
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN
And another

WV wild deer spreading cwd and percent infected getting higher but yet the have to throw in a disclaimer that it's the deer farmers fault and the usda for allowing transport.



''Crum said biologists doubt that CWD can be limited to existing areas, mainly because the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s effort to monitor the disease among captive herds “is broke.”


“They have a list, but not all the animals known to be infected are on the list, and [deer farmers and breeders] are transporting animals all over the place,” he said. “Right now, I’m not optimistic we can keep the disease from spreading.” ''


http://www.wvgazette.com/article/201....l5MokBTM.dpuf
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