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Old Nov 11th 2014, 08:31 PM   #1
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  Apr 2009
  Edgar, WI

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16ptWell folks I have to decide what path to take. The cold hard fact is we can’t keep them all. Pen sizes and numbers of pens available mean keeping the numbers in check. So, keep and fawn out what I have bred this fall and then offer some does open this next summer. Or sell a couple of does bred this winter. To help me sort this out in my mind I would like to throw out this offering and see what interest I get back from people.


16ptEarlier this fall I sold some does open for far less money than I should have trying to make some room in my pens. Unfortunately I know I will have too many head again in 2015. So I will reluctantly offer two does bred in the hope the price is a little less painful to me the seller.


16ptThese are not “lesser” quality does being offered from the herd. These two girls are being selected because out of the 11 females I do have, some are being live bred at another farm, and the agreement with that farm was that I would not offer offspring from those breedings to anyone else. So selling them bred is not an option.


16ptThe next thing I looked at was, of the girls being bred to my own buck Ruben, which females did I now have daughters out of already. That narrowed it down to just two girls, Glenna and Ivy that I can offer for sale.


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16ptGlenna is a GD Romeo, GB Magic, PA Geronimo, GB Goliath 1, Magnum 2, Studley. As you can see this girl is deep and loaded with the best lines in the country. Sundance, Patrick, PA Geronimo and the Flees line. (Pedigree of Glenna pictured)


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16ptIvy is an Updraft, GD Big Sir, Flees’ Harry on Flees’ Bart’s full sister. In 2014 Ivy had 2 real good yearlings one of which badly damaged his rack and had to be sawed off. The other died this fall. (He is "Orange 2" pictured in this post) (Pedigree of Ivy pictured)


16ptI really hate to let an Updraft girl go, but these 2 does are the only ones I can sell bred, and I have daughters from them already so I have little choice.


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16ptThey are both live bred to Ruben who is pictured in this posting. Ruben is 2 years old and is conservatively estimated at 225”@ 2.


16ptAlso pictured is the pedigree for Ruben. Madison who is the maternal grandma for Ruben, produced several beautiful sons scoring well over 260” and up. Ruben is the oldest son out of Cagney and he had a twin that died fighting in the fall of last year who was even bigger than Ruben at age one. Ruben’s mother is of course an Updraft girl. Updraft has had phenomenal sons and his daughters are great producers as well. Consistent production is what this breeding is all about. Looking at the top side of Ruben you have my buck Shadow Man who was rough scored at 273”@2 but has been damaged every year since. And on the maternal side of Shadow Man you again find the production of Y0289 who is the maternal grand dam to Updraft. And oh yes Shadow is his sire.


16pt(As a side note I would sell Shadow Man as well for next year’s breeding season. If you are interested in consistent production and at an inexpensive price, you can email me with any questions)


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18pxPlease make all contact via email at:*** 18pxRoger_Pietrowski@yahoo.com


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18pxRuben this fall at 2


20457:Ruben h


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18pxOrange 2 the yearling son of Ivy


20458:Orange 2


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18pxIvy bred to Ruben pedigree


20460:Ivy bred to Ruben.


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18pxGlenna bred to Ruben pedigree


20461:Glenna bred to Ruben.


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18pxRuben pedigree


20462:Ruben.


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Old Nov 15th 2014, 03:49 AM   #2
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  Apr 2009
  Edgar, WI

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I have had three inquiries about buying these does (Glenna and Ivy) open after weaning time. As I have replied back to the interested parties this is possible as well. And if this is what takes place the doe fawns from these two would then be available as well since as I stated I already have daughters from the mothers. (Glenna and Ivy)


I will NOT however be able to bottle feed nor start any bottle feeding for a buyer. So we would need to arrange ahead of time for a quick pickup during fawning time.


Very sorry to those who emailed me and it took so long to get back with you. Work has had me VERY busy this past 2 weeks.


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Many won't care about my travels however I know I have had some tell me at deer shows over the years that they like to hear about where I all go so here is a break down of the past 2 weeks.


Started at home in Wisconsin and work bought me tickets to meet the plane and start and then operated to the following.


Los Angeles, California


Incheon South Korea


Los Angeles


San Fransico


Incheon


Hong Kong


Delhi India


Leipzig Germany


Munich Germany


Riga Latvia


Bagram Afghanistan


Hong Kong


Incheon South Korea


Los Angeles


Anchorage Alaska


In about 19 hours I go to,


Chicago


New York


and then I should be heading home to WI.


Looking forward to my own bed and decent home cooked meals!!!
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Old Nov 15th 2014, 07:04 AM   #3
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  Mar 2012
  Wisconsin


crap!* I don't see Belgium on the list.*


But I'll take this opportunity to express my gratitude for the luscious chocolates that were hand delivered last time you came to visit.* * The extra pounds gained will certainly help get through this winter!*


By the way, our daughter from your Ivy is doing wonderfully and we couldn't be happier with this exquisite looking doe with the awesome lines behind her.* Thought you'd want to know.* Safe travels!
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Old Nov 15th 2014, 08:22 AM   #4
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Thats B.S.! You better be getting some good perks!
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Old Nov 15th 2014, 11:14 AM   #5
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crap!* I don't see Belgium on the list.*

But I'll take this opportunity to express my gratitude for the luscious chocolates that were hand delivered last time you came to visit.* * The extra pounds gained will certainly help get through this winter!*

By the way, our daughter from your Ivy is doing wonderfully and we couldn't be happier with this exquisite looking doe with the awesome lines behind her.* Thought you'd want to know.* Safe travels!


No chocolates from Belgium this month sorry. LOL, or maybe that is a good thing depending how one looks at it!

Yes I feel we will be very pleased with our two girls out of Ivy.

Tell Karl we need to get together for some chat time in a couple of days!
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Old Nov 15th 2014, 11:21 AM   #6
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Thats B.S.! You better be getting some good perks!


It pays the bills. Sure it has it's downside like anything else. But I feel fortunate to have seen the world as much as I have also. But I really wish I had paid more attention in school when they tried to teach me about all the little countries on a map. Had to learn all that stuff the hard way.
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Old Nov 15th 2014, 02:47 PM   #7
 
  Jan 2013
  NJ, deer are kept in PA
Roger. By your posts and pics in the gallery, I am wondering what you do, I understand your a pilot of sorts but wonder for who and why you travel as much as you do. Please enlighten me and tell a little about what you do. Hope this didn't sound blunt or ignorant in anyway. Thanks


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Old Nov 15th 2014, 04:10 PM   #8
 
  Oct 2012
  Ohio


Roger...don't sweat the delay in answering. I knew you were out of the country. I'd like to know what you do as well
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Old Nov 17th 2014, 07:27 AM   #9
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  Edgar, WI

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Hey guys,


I just got home last night. Sure I can tell you about what I do.


I work for a relatively small company called Kalitta Air. It is owned by Conrad "Connie" Kalitta. He is well known in the drag racing world.


I lose track of how many aircraft (birds as I call them) we are actually running at any given time. We operate the Boeing 747 Classics and the 747-400. I started my time with the company back in Feb 2008 on the Classics and the past 4 years have been flying the 747-400.


We have multiple configurations for these models so they are not all the same. My favorite birds that I really like flying are the ERF models. (Extended Range Freighter)


Some stats on the B747-400 would be,


They have a gross take off weight of 910,000 pounds.


The wing span is 211' 5"


Total length is 231' 10"


Height is 63' 8"


Maximum operating altitude is 45,100' however we spend most of our time cruising between about 32,000' and 40,000' depending on our total weight.


Fully fueled it can carry 380,870 pounds of gas which is approx 53,645 gallons.


With the engines running just sitting on the ground doing nothing we burn approx 6,000 LBS per hour or 845 gallons.


We typically only carry the minimal amount of gas so as to increase the amount of total cargo we can carry.


There are 2 cargo areas called the lower lobes. A forward and an aft section. Then the main deck area. Then there is the upper deck area where we have seats, bunks and an office area with computers and printers, and a galley area for food and drinks. Each flight is catered with food and drinks for us provided by the company.


We are a cargo hauling company. The only time we haul people is if we have couriers on board that are accompanying the cargo.


We will essentially haul anything, from anywhere, to anywhere. Just be ready to pay the price and we will do it.


Items hauled include everything from race horses, giant manta rays and whales, to oil pipe, helicopters, and IPhones.


Our 2 largest customers would most likely be DHL who is a huge company such as UPS and FedEx. They are big in other countries and make UPS and FedEx look small. The other big customer would be the U.S. gov. That could be anything from the U.S. mail to ???? Things we can't talk about.


We also do a lot of stuff called ad hoc charters. It could be some pop up out of the blue, has to go NOW type of flying.


The Christmas rush is beginning to kick in now and until Dec 25th the birds will be running full steam ahead.


My schedules are essentially 17 days per month. I can move things around, but like working the first 17 days of each month and then be off the rest of the month. We bid for trips and are awarded the trips based on seniority however frankly we rarely fly of awarded line each month. They tend to shift us around and use us however they see fit. The best thing to do is get your mind wrapped around the idea that for 17 days they own you and they will use you wherever and however they see fit. Many guys have a hard time with that but it is what it is.


The company buys us our airline tickets from home to where they want us to start operating from. They pay for all hotels and airline travel while gone and also to home when we are done for the month. We get the frequent flyer miles and hotel points to keep and that is nice.


Most places we stay are pretty nice, however I have places in the world I hate to be. Top of that list is Delhi India. Once you have seen a grown man crapping in a street drain by the curb you have seen enough. I am not a huge fan of the Middle East in general. Places like Bahrain and Dubai get VERY hot. Temps in the 120's is not uncommon. I am restricted to what else I can say about the Middle East flying so I will stop there.


Asia is another interesting place. One can't really begin to understand fully the differences in cultures until your dropped into these places for a few days.


One question I am always asked by folks is what is my favorite place to go. Home is my fav place! But if I were to choose someplace else I would say Germany. We fly into the Leipzig Germany airport a lot. It is the main sorting hub for DHL. When we stay there we stay in a town called Halle. I love the place. In about 10 days or so the Christmas market will open in the town square and run until about Dec 15th or so. It can't be described how neat it is. The food and drinks make the cold winter air smell so awesome! I love drinking the hot wine called gluhwein. It is a mulled German wine. Just google it for more info.


Another question I am often asked is how long have I been flying. I started back in about 1988 or 1989. But I also took some time off in between doing other stuff as well. I used to fly people around the U.S. and Canada. I got bored with that and wanted better time off so I went to international cargo. I don't even know how many hours of flying time I have. I stopped filling out a log book many years ago.


It has been a pretty good job for me. Coming from a town of 1,000 people where some never even leave the state it is pretty cool to have seen all the stuff I have. I try and keep in mind how fortunate I am when the job gets on my nerves.


Anyway, that is enough for now.


I know aviation is interesting to many. Often people have the idea jobs like mine are all glamorous but trust me they are not. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask and I can answer them for you. Or I can try to answer them if I am allowed to talk about it.


Thanks for reading!


Roger
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Old Nov 17th 2014, 11:21 AM   #10
 
  Jan 2013
  NJ, deer are kept in PA
Wow Roger. The numbers for fuel you listed are outrageous. I couldn't imagine the bill to fill that puppy up. That is one heck of an aircraft. You would have to love your job. Thanks for the insight. I'm sure I'll have a question or 2 but I have to read your post again. Lol
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Old Nov 17th 2014, 05:38 PM   #11
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  Feb 2011
  Blair County, PA

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Pretty cool Rodger, pretty cool
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Old Nov 18th 2014, 07:32 AM   #12
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Wow Roger. The numbers for fuel you listed are outrageous. I couldn't imagine the bill to fill that puppy up. That is one heck of an aircraft. You would have to love your job. Thanks for the insight. I'm sure I'll have a question or 2 but I have to read your post again. Lol




Keep in mind we almost always carry minimal gas for the flight. For instance I looked back in my emails for the relatively short flight from Anchorage Alaska to Chicago.


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Flight time was planned at 5 hours and 30 minutes to destination. Not counting any possible diversion to an alternate.


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The estimated fuel burn for that leg of the flight plan was 134,288 pounds. We of course have to do the flight plans with alternate airports also. Plus each flight is planned differently based on various details specific to that flight such as weather, ATC delays, volcanic activity, taxi time for departure airport, and many other items of interest while leaving the departure airport and while enroute as well as at the destination. These various items increase the needed fuel load we take.


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For this flight total ramp fuel was 171,300 pounds. That means we loaded 171,300 pounds of gas on the bird while at the gate prior to being ready to push out for departure.


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Having said all that we try not to carry more than we prudently need. Because for this specific flight any weight above the planned takeoff weight of 767596 pounds meant an increased fuel burn of 144 pounds of gas per 1,000 pounds above the planned takeoff weight. So in other words for every 1,000 pounds of gas more we would have taken along we would have burned 144 pounds of it just to carry it along.


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Now there are times we will "tanker" gas meaning carry way more than we need. For instance gas prices or availability of gas at the destination airport.


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If you notice in the example flight above we had a takeoff weight of only 767,596 pounds. Not very heavy at all. Sometimes the cargo "bulks out" the bird before it ever gets to be too heavy. Some things are just really bulky and take up a lot of room but don't weigh much. Some things are heavy and weight is an issue before the bird is even close to being full looking.
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Old Nov 18th 2014, 08:25 AM   #13
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  May 2009
  Tuscaloosa, Alabama

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Sounds like it's very expensive to go from Alaska to Chicago just in fuel
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Old Nov 18th 2014, 08:54 AM   #14
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  May 2009
  St. Ignace, Northern Michigan

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Thank you Rodger for all the information. Is great to see the pictures*you post. Connie is based in lower *Michigan so is that where you fly out of ?
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Old Nov 18th 2014, 11:04 AM   #15
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Sounds like it's very expensive to go from Alaska to Chicago just in fuel




Flying is costly but in a world where everyone needs things yesterday ocean going cargo ships just don't cut it.


Anchorage is actually a tech stop for our company and many many other companies as well. The flight originated out of Shanghai China. Often times Anchorage is used as tech stops to refuel or refuel and switch crews. That is why I got on there to fly it to Chicago.
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