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Nov 27th 2009, 08:11 AM
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Has anybody tried or know of someone who has tried cross breeding different species of deer. I know of a Ranch here in Lee County where they are breeding Red Deer with Elk. Like Whitetails with Axis, or something like that.
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Nov 27th 2009, 08:46 AM
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Sure the hell hope NOT!! AINT RIGHT!!  ONLY MY OPINION! DC
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Nov 27th 2009, 08:55 AM
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Apr 2009 Vaughn, MT 59487 Cervid: mule deer,whitetail,elk,goats,bighorn & stone sheep & Alaskan dahl sheep |
The only cross we have in Montana that occures in nature is the cross between whitetail and mule deer. I believe that I have read that the mule deer was created by the overlapping areas of whitetail and black tail deer and the breeding between the two types, much like the stone sheep was created by the overlapping areas of the Alaskan Dall and the Rocky Mountain bighorn.
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Nov 27th 2009, 09:02 AM
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If it Dont Happen Naturally, then Best left up to mother alone. Critic,s really love that creating ,and in a pen!! Ps Good Luck Jack,in your Breeding, Dc
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Nov 27th 2009, 09:33 AM
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Apr 2009 Vaughn, MT 59487 Cervid: mule deer,whitetail,elk,goats,bighorn & stone sheep & Alaskan dahl sheep |
Thanks DC and the same wishes with your AI program. I'm very interested in how you make out with the intercept method. We ourselves are very late this year in our AI program as we have been helping one of the family members build his new house. Family and friends still comes first in my life. I would have AI'd our whitetail Nov. 23 but will be doing them Dec 2 and 3rd. We will not use a back up buck this year as the fawns would be late.
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Nov 27th 2009, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dcwhitetails If it Dont Happen Naturally, then Best left up to mother Nature. Critic,s really love that creating ,and in a pen!! Ps Good Luck Jack,in your Breeding, Dc |
I was wondering if it was even possible, on our last deer lease several years back there were Whitetail and Axis on it and the owner claimed there was a few crossed animals on the place, but on the Ranch I live on now, I don't think there is. I wonder what they would look like???????
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Nov 27th 2009, 10:50 AM
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We seen Lama and Buck trying,both wanting bad as other.  Like Jack said Overlapping. i guess when you restricted to once a yr lookout! Anything possible gotta be line somewhere,DC, Ps Jack, intercept was Fun,I had not a clue, how or this was gonna unfold, it just did! i found real quick i couldnt run like used to. had to figure easier way.  and trick was, Dont open gate to Check Doe.Rut goes on even behind 8ft fence.I got Ai exp all i after.i will always do standind heat  Dc No intercept to it,dont mingle till standing! DC fun all gone  | |
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Nov 27th 2009, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dcwhitetails We seen Lama and Buck trying,both wanting bad as other. Like Jack said Overlapping. i guess when you restricted to once a yr lookout! Anything possible gotta be line somewhere,DC, Ps Jack, intercept was Fun,I had not a clue, how or this was gonna unfold, it just did! i found real quick i couldnt run like used to. had to figure easier way. and trick was, Dont open gate to Check Doe.Rut goes on even behind 8ft fence.I got Ai exp all i after.i will always do standind heat Dc No intercept to it,dont mingle till standing! DC fun all gone |
Um, I have no clue what you were trying to say there!
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Nov 27th 2009, 04:46 PM
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Apr 2009 Marquez, TX Cervid: Whitetails |
We had a bottle raised Axis doe that would breed to this bottle raised Whitetail buck every year. She'd carry the fetus almost to term, but would abort every year. So I would say, yes, they will breed, but the offspring won't survive.
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Nov 27th 2009, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Droptine We had a bottle raised Axis doe that would breed to this bottle raised Whitetail buck every year. She'd carry the fetus almost to term, but would abort every year. So I would say, yes, they will breed, but the offspring won't survive. |
Did you ever find out why she would abort? I wonder if you bred a whitetail doe to an Axis buck if the results would be different.
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Nov 28th 2009, 05:02 AM
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Im Just Assuming her aborting, cause not meant to be! Nature,s Way
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Nov 28th 2009, 05:44 AM
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Apr 2009 Marquez, TX Cervid: Whitetails | Quote: |
Originally Posted by dcwhitetails Im Just Assuming her aborting, cause not meant to be! Nature,s Way |
That would be opinion also. If God didn't intend for something like that to happen then it won't happen.
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Nov 28th 2009, 07:34 AM
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I was looking for something a little more scientific about why she would abort than just "God's will be done."
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Nov 28th 2009, 08:06 AM
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Apr 2009 Marquez, TX Cervid: Whitetails |
Then you might want to ask a vet or a scientist, I'm just a deer breeder  | |
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Nov 28th 2009, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Bittinger the gestation of axis doe is eight to eight an one half months.they breed thru out the year.they will breed but will not survive cross breedin. eather way you breed it won`t work out.the whitetail doe will have to soon.the axis doe will have it to late.all fails.robert |
what is the gestation period of whitetails? Fallow? Sike? etc?
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