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Old Nov 3rd 2015, 11:22 PM   #1
 
  Dec 2013
  Newellton, LA.


Does it hurt to dart using BAM on pregnant does, will this bam effect the fawns in different stages of Gestation period?
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Old Nov 4th 2015, 08:09 PM   #2
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I have not seen any adverse effects of BAM on Pregnant does during any of the 3 stages of gestation.
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Old Nov 5th 2015, 07:01 PM   #3
 
  May 2015
  KY


I just looked on Zoopharm's website and did not find anything mentioned about "adverse effects", to not use it on animals during pregnancy or lactation. There are things like lung congestion, heart failure, liver, kidney problems etc. mentioned for the Medetomidine. That's all I could find.
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Old Nov 7th 2015, 04:21 AM   #4
 
  Dec 2013
  Newellton, LA.


much appreciated, I will be darting a few does in Jan-Feb. and was wondering before I*do it.


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Old Nov 14th 2015, 06:47 PM   #5
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  Bedford, PA


Darted lots of pregnant does with BAM... the agent itself should not cause you any issues. *How the darting is done is another manner. *Good luck.*
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Old Nov 18th 2015, 12:47 PM   #6
 
  Oct 2011
  Colorado


Regarding your enquiry about BAM use in pregnant does, it has been used safely/effectively on pregnant does up to 2 weeks prior to delivery.

With less than 2 weeks to parturition, we do not recommend it.


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Old Nov 18th 2015, 01:02 PM   #7
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Regarding your enquiry about BAM use in pregnant does, it has been used safely/effectively on pregnant does up to 2 weeks prior to delivery.

With less than 2 weeks to parturition, we do not recommend it.


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How soon after AI is it safe?
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Old Nov 18th 2015, 01:35 PM   #8
 
  Oct 2011
  Colorado


tahoma, geneva, Many deer farmers/ranchers currently use BAM to immobilize does for Lap AI.


tahoma, geneva, Have conducted a study comparing BAM v. Tel/Xyl on 40 does during 11ptlaparoscopic artificial insemination with equal/better conception rates and, most importantly, a significantly improved quality of recovery experience for all BAM does.


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tahoma, geneva, 11pt[See link attached for report summary].


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tahoma, geneva, 11ptBased on field data and experiences BAM would have little effect on does following AI.


tahoma, geneva, 11pt[Assuming they have fully recovered from whatever immobilization drugs used for AI.]


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tahoma, geneva, 11pt22820:BAM AI CONCEPTION Bulletin_3-2014revs.pdf]


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Old Nov 18th 2015, 02:03 PM   #9
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tahoma, geneva, Many deer farmers/ranchers currently use BAM to immobilize does for Lap AI.


tahoma, geneva, Have conducted a study comparing BAM v. Tel/Xyl on 40 does during 11ptlaparoscopic artificial insemination with equal/better conception rates and, most importantly, a significantly improved quality of recovery experience for all BAM does.


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tahoma, geneva, 11pt[See link attached for report summary].


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tahoma, geneva, 11ptBased on field data and experiences BAM would have little effect on does following AI.


tahoma, geneva, 11pt[Assuming they have fully recovered from whatever immobilization drugs used for AI.]


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tahoma, geneva, 11ptBAM AI CONCEPTION Bulletin_3-2014revs.pdf




We used BAM for LAP AI...no problems. *I just have a doe that I need to move into a new pen 12 days after AI (with back up buck and other does) *and want to make sure I won't make her abort by doing so.
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Old Nov 18th 2015, 02:57 PM   #10
 
  Oct 2011
  Colorado


No problem, Ryan.
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Old Nov 20th 2015, 05:15 AM   #11
 
  Nov 2013
  Mission MN
We used BAM last year in the first trimester to move some mule deer does and had no negative effects
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Old Aug 24th 2016, 01:33 PM   #12
 
  Aug 2014
  Montgomery, AL


Off topic a bit but didn't want to start a new thread.


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What does everybody use for transporting fawns from bottle feeding pens to the big girl pens if you don't have a runway?


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If BAM what dose are you using to knock down and wake up? Seems like a smaller margin of error with the little ladies.


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Are there other options other than sedation?


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Old Aug 27th 2016, 08:47 AM   #13
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I use 1/4 cc on fawns
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