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Old Sep 29th 2014, 12:56 AM   #1
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN


now that the fawning season and bottle feeding is coming to a close I thought it would be interesting and educational for people to share their experiences and share what worked for them and maybe what they though didn't.


Anytime we can prevent issues or learn how to treat them makes us all more better farmers and more profitable.


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a couple things I would like to share


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1. The pumpkin experiment.


*** I shared earlier in the season about putting pumpkin in the bottles for stool consistency and help prevent diarrhea.* I will have to say I will be doing this EVERY year I bottle feed.* I had the least problems digestive wise that I have in 4 years.* Less loose stool and better eaters.* I let them eat til they are full, I feel that the mother does not restrict their milk so why should I.


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2.* There always seems to be one in the crowd that is a major pain in the rear.* The only thing I think kept*this fawn**alive was c/d antitox and penicillin.* He ate pretty well for 2.5 weeks then started backing off the bottle.* He is now about a little over a month old.*His womb mate was a great eater an looked like a million.* *I* began treating*this fawn*periodically with c/d ant.* Then* I had to treat daily or he would completely back off the bottle, but he was not still eating like I would like.*At one point I had to start him on SQ fluids because I thought the end was coming.* But he perked up and came to life with the fluids.**** I was attributing it to him looking a little premature when he was born and maybe something was wrong internally.* I tried whole milk instead of our replacer and that was worse.* Later I tried goats milk and that was not any better.* I decided to try Lactaid milk(lactose free) and wow what a difference it has made in the last 4 days.* He downs his bottle instead of nit picking, his*very mild bloat has subsided*and is starting to come to life.* Just shows you they can have the same issues we do.


His nickname is Stinky because his poop has been so foul smelling.* This too is getting better.* His stool has always been solid.


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If this can help a few of you, *I thought I would share.
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 02:35 AM   #2
 
  Jan 2013
  NJ, deer are kept in PA



1. The pumpkin experiment.

I shared earlier in the season about putting pumpkin in the bottles for stool consistency and help prevent diarrhea. I will have to say I will be doing this EVERY year I bottle feed. I had the least problems digestive wise that I have in 4 years. Less loose stool and better eaters. I let them eat til they are full, I feel that the mother does not restrict their milk so why should I.[/quote]


I agree 100%



For those fawns that don't wanna seem to take a nipple after being pulled from a doe, try a little bit of sugar on the end of the bottle nipple. I had one last year and it worked like a charm.
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 03:28 AM   #3
 
  Jul 2012
  Russellville, KY


The pumpkin was the best tip. I had the best year using that as well. You hear several people say that they don't bottle feed anymore. I would like to hear thoughts on that.
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 07:50 AM   #4
 
  Jun 2014
  United States


Another thing that i found worked well this year is if a fawn doesn't really seem to want to eat (we use powder here) you can feed them butter milk instead with a small handful of baby cereal added. The couple problem eats I had loved it! After about a week I slowly changed it back over to powder and they have been fine ever since. Another thing that worked well was just making sure they had nice good quality dirt. dug some good stuff up from the woods in the back of the farm and any with loose stools hardened right up to normal. ( i did have to take it away from a couple because it seemed like they would never stop eating it lol)
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 10:31 AM   #5
 
  Nov 2012
  Clinton PA
If the fawns are still a little loose even with the pumpkin; we have added alittle softened calf mana to the bottle also. I usually put mana in a small container add some warm water cover it up and let it soften then add a tablespoon or two into the bottle along with pumpkin. Phase worked like a charm
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 01:14 PM   #6
 
  Aug 2014
  Groton SD


im new to site and the pumpkin addition how much pumpkin are you adding and i assume the can pumpkin pie filling?
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Old Sep 29th 2014, 04:27 PM   #7
 
  Dec 2012
  Clymer NY


We had a little trouble with loose stool at about 2 weeks old....feeding red cap milk.....added dirt to their diet and started putting a heaping tablespoon of pumpkin in the pan of milk for 2 fawns and never looked back! Works awesome.......will definitely be using the same regiment next year. We didn't feed all *they could eat but I am sure it was close.


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Kass


Only use 100% pumpkin....( no spices added)*
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Old Oct 5th 2014, 04:26 AM   #8
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  Burlington, West Virginia

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Spring Creek Farm , I like the Calf Manna tip, Thanks, Allen
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Old Oct 10th 2014, 04:30 PM   #9
 
  Nov 2012
  Clinton PA
Allen, you are welcome. Trail and error, but it works
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Old Oct 11th 2014, 05:13 PM   #10
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN


the update on the one in the* crowd fawn.* Gee he has been a pain in my rear.* I have had a total of 2 pretty good bouts of clostridium with this fawn that is now 7 weeks old.* He was doing well then started backing off the bottle again and I had to put a catheter in him, give him c/d anititoxin/water based penicillin IV* and put him on total IV nutrition for 3 days because he would not eat.* I swear he is part cat and has nine lives.* He will probably be worthless LOL if he makes it to adulthood.* After he started eating I have been putting the water based penicillin in his bottle.* I also have been vaccinating him every 5 days with the c/d toxoid in hopes that he starts developing his own immunity against the clostridium that has been plaguing him.* He is eating better now than he ever has so fingers are crossed.* The*one thing I have noticed about him is that is b.m's stink a lot worse that normal, I assume due to the clostridium.* Therefore his*name is*"Stinky".* LOL*
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Old Jun 8th 2015, 05:29 AM   #11
 
  Dec 2014
  Arkansas
I have a doe with 1 month old twins. She has stopped nursing them. Can anyone suggest a good way I can get her babies to take a bottle? I've never had this problem before.
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Old Jun 8th 2015, 05:32 AM   #12
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN
try putting their water in a small bowl or bucket because usually they are drinking water at that age anyway
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Old Jun 8th 2015, 05:38 AM   #13
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  Apr 2009
  cental Pennsylvania

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Yes leave water out where they can get to it. I have had one month old fawns live when their mother died suddenly. I never bottle fed or did anything. They are usually aggressive enough to steal milk from other mothers at that age if they want it bad enough.
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Old Jun 8th 2015, 06:19 AM   #14
 
  Dec 2014
  Arkansas
They do drink water. But they don't need milk now?
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Old Jun 8th 2015, 06:43 AM   #15
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  upstate ny

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They do drink water. But they don't need milk now?




Put warm Red Cap milk in where they can get to it. If you can get them into a smaller area by themselves.
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