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Old Sep 30th 2009, 07:19 AM   #1
 
  May 2009
  Northwest Illinois
I have our most important buck fawn now stumbling around with a bloated gut.



What can/should I do?



Please respond ASAP.

Thank you,



Mark
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 07:35 AM   #2
 
  Apr 2009
  Brookshire, Texas
My thoughts are:



C/D anti-toxin, treatmentment amount on the label for goats is 10 cc sub-cu



B complex, or straight thiamine if you have it, depending on his weight, about 2 cc's



Penicillin OR tetracyclene - NOT both, they don't get along in the system. Whichever you have on hand. Good size does of either, maybe a little IM and a little SC. I know some even use penicillin orally, and claim to see good response with it. I have not tried that method - maybe someone else will comment on that.



Probiotics



Baking soda, table spoon or so, mix with water so you can drench with it (helps the pH get back on track)



Banamine, will help with the discomfort and fever if he has one.



If anyone else has something to change or add, please do. My ways aren't the only ways.



Good luck, Mark.
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 07:58 AM   #3
 
  Apr 2009
  Amsterdam, Ohio
Your right on Robbie !!!! I have used penicillin orally and have had good success !!!! In the case here I`d use a heavy dose of Penicillin. Mark don`t rule out Ecoli or Salmonella but with the antibiotics you`ll have it covered. Just a guess.



Mark get a fecal sample tested at the vets and see what`s going on there. Hope things turn for the best for ya !!!
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 08:22 AM   #4
 
  May 2009
  Northwest Illinois
Mark is at the vet with the fawn. The vet wants to put a tube down the deers throat or use a needle to relieve the bloating.



Is this a good/safe idea?



Thanks for your quick replies.
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 08:32 AM   #5
 
  Apr 2009
  Tobin Lake, Saskatchewan
yes, it's the symptoms that can kill it quickly ,relieve them and it gives you more time to fix /find the problem
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 08:32 AM   #6
 
  May 2009
  Northwest Illinois
Vet has liquid and pill form of Pennicillan. Which do you reccommend Mitch?

Thanks!
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 08:37 AM   #7
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  Apr 2009
  Madill, Oklahoma

Cervid: Raising Deer
I have heard McQuaig talking about inserting a 16 ga needle two fingers from the flank to relieve bloat, but I have never had to do it. Must work.
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 08:38 AM   #8
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If still at vet, dont put any more into stomach. Use injection.
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 08:39 AM   #9
 
  Apr 2009
  Tobin Lake, Saskatchewan
liquid form, quicker
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 08:39 AM   #10
 
  Apr 2009
  Amsterdam, Ohio
If we are dealing with Crostrial perfringens here the removel of the bloat will extend the time somewhat but it`s a must for the C&D anti-toxins and the large dose of Penicillin !! Hope this helps a bit !!!
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 08:42 AM   #11
 
  Apr 2009
  Tobin Lake, Saskatchewan
the quickest way to get antibiotics into an animal is to use clear type(draxxin) and Inter venous inject, any thing with color or milky white is for sub Q or intra muscular
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 08:46 AM   #12
 
  May 2009
  Northwest Illinois
Vet says that the bloating isnt tight enough to try relieving it at this time.

The fawn is VERY lethargic.



C/D anti-toxin is not available to us at this time... is there anythig alse we can try?



Thanks again
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 08:51 AM   #13
 
  Apr 2009
  Tobin Lake, Saskatchewan
I have given vegtable oil 50/50 with milk replacer to make sure they loosen up and can relieve in the normal pattern, only give an ounce
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 09:00 AM   #14
 
  Apr 2009
  Amsterdam, Ohio
Boy Marsha I wish I had a way to get you some anti-toxin !!!! Do the large dose of pen and do some calling to find the anti-toxins. Maybe someone else has an idea of a substitute but I do not. Let`s pray that it`s not Perfringens.
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Old Sep 30th 2009, 09:17 AM   #15
 
  May 2009
  Northwest Illinois
Is it normal for a deer to be lethargic due to bloating?
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