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Old Jun 21st 2012, 06:14 AM   #1
 
  Jul 2011
  West Branch, MI / USA
Man, the flies are God awful this year! What to do. I spray the herd and enclosures with a permethrin mix and try to Swat some of the tamer doe's. But this year I can't keep up. Do you guys add anything to your feed (garlic powder) or is there a great solution to my problem that I'm just not aware of????

PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!
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Old Jun 21st 2012, 08:56 AM   #2
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  Apr 2009
  Northeast Wisconsin

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We have discussed this several times on our TV show. We use Victor fly traps. They are large jars that you put some fly bait in and when the flies crawl in they can't get out. You can get them at your local farm supply store or through Jeffers supply. Through Jeffers they show the smaller jars, but when you select it you can then choose the gallon jars, which is what we use. You would not believe the number of flies you will catch in those things! Thousands! Then you can empty them and refill. We hang them on the outside of the pens. We put out about one per pen, but if they fill up in 10 days or so you should put out more. They won't eliminate flies, but they really cut down on them. Nothing makes you feel better than seeing a jar full of flies you've just eliminated!
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Old Jun 21st 2012, 11:58 AM   #3
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  Jan 2011
  Lentner, MO
I agree with Wild Rivers. We have tried about everything to cut down on the number of flies - Garlic in feed, spray, fly predators, and fly traps. We like the traps the best, BUT nothing we have tried will eliminate them completely for us. We just feel like we get the best results for the money with the traps.
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Old Jun 21st 2012, 12:59 PM   #4
 
  Apr 2009
  Nowata, OK
Max force fly bait works well. Use with caution!!!
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Old Jun 21st 2012, 01:58 PM   #5
 
  Apr 2009
  Williamsport, PA
I was curious to folks that fog there pens or have misting/spray systems what kind of concentrate you use and how you mix it for best results?
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Old Jun 21st 2012, 04:23 PM   #6
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  Jun 2010
  Fogelsville, PA

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We use the fly traps and 3.5lbs of garlic powder per half ton in the feed. The garlic really works wonders, but it takes a good two weeks until we really start seeing a difference once we start feeding it. It's been the single best thing we've done for pest control. We almost never see any ticks either. We actually see more on our dogs than on the deer.
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Old Jun 21st 2012, 05:20 PM   #7
 
  Oct 2010
  Middletown, PA, USA
Josh in my fogger I use 10% permetherin and mix it 10oz to 25 gallons. Any questions give me a call.
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Old Jun 21st 2012, 05:37 PM   #8
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  May 2009
  St. Ignace, Northern Michigan

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Deer Dee. We have used Spalding fly predators for five years with great sucess. Cost about 250.00 a year for five shipments of 25,000 .It was worth the money.Work good if there are no other farms nearby. Mackinac Island started them a couple years ago.
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Old Jun 22nd 2012, 07:33 AM   #9
 
  Oct 2009
I make my own traps from clear plastic pretzel containers a gallon and a half or so. Any clear plastic container with a screw on lid will work.

Drill several 1/4 inch holes in the lid and run a wire through the sides to hang it.

Bait it with a bleugill or some fish scraps, with just enough water to cover the fish.

They fill up in a few weeks, dump em out n rebait.

Dumped my 6 traps last night, and just about filled a 5 gal bucket with flies.

It is a little disgusting, but its free and it works great.
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Old Jun 22nd 2012, 08:18 AM   #10
 
  Jun 2011
  Bellaire, MI
Has anyone tried Malathion to knock the smaller biting and sucking flies? We use the large jar traps and have had great success with the larger flies. The smaller biting and sucking flies still drive the animals crazy. My elk ran all day the other day in 90 degree heat, trying to stay away from the flies. could barely see the flies till I got up close and found a swarm hanging near the back end of each animal.
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Old Jun 22nd 2012, 09:01 AM   #11
 
  Apr 2009
  Chambersburg, Pa
Josh, we have been using a mix len worked up a couple years ago. Permethrin SFR 37% (20 oz) with Synerpro PBO (16 oz) in a 50 gal batch. Synerpro is for knock down. Works. Costs $28 a batch.

We have used Malathion, seemed to work but I couldn't stand the smell, even in sealed cab.
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Old Jun 22nd 2012, 10:22 AM   #12
 
  Apr 2009
  Fombell PA
i guess its ok for the deer to consume this stuff when your spraying the pens with it correct?
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Old Jun 22nd 2012, 10:23 AM   #13
 
  Apr 2009
  Williamsport, PA
Thanks guys
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Old Jun 22nd 2012, 11:03 AM   #14
 
  Jun 2011
  Bellaire, MI
The user information for Malathion says to remove the animal from the area while spraying, but that is the only limitation.
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Old Jun 22nd 2012, 11:32 AM   #15
 
  May 2009
  Northwest Illinois
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Originally Posted by Rowe Farm
Has anyone tried Malathion to knock the smaller biting and sucking flies? We use the large jar traps and have had great success with the larger flies. The smaller biting and sucking flies still drive the animals crazy. My elk ran all day the other day in 90 degree heat, trying to stay away from the flies. could barely see the flies till I got up close and found a swarm hanging near the back end of each animal.


I agree Rowe, the large jar traps work fine on the ''big flies'', but they don't seem to load up with the smaller biting flies, which are the flies that are the problem for the deer. The big flies aren't the problem...they don't bite!
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