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Old Jul 9th 2012, 08:25 AM   #1
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  Feb 2012
  South Dakota
I have to Buck Fawns in the pens that have developed a bad case of the scours. No other fawns have it in any other pen. They alos look a lot smaller than other fawns of the same age. The scours are tar like not green. I'm planning to pull the fawns from the mother and give 1/2cc ivermectin orally, 1/2 cc Fusoguard SQ, and a half tube of probiotic paste. I'll then have the fawns isolated in my barn and I'm going to provide pellets and water with corrid in it. I'm hoping I can start them on a bottle but they are 5 weeks old so maybe I can get them drinking my replacer from the water dish. Any suggestions?

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Old Jul 9th 2012, 09:47 AM   #2
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  Apr 2009
  Vaughn, MT 59487

Cervid: mule deer,whitetail,elk,goats,bighorn & stone sheep & Alaskan dahl sheep
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I would use Panacur instead of Ivermic. Panacur would also kill worms but the active ingredient fenbendazole will also kill coccidia which sometimes makes black looking stools. Panacur is very hard to overdose with and I use 1cc oral per fawn for two days. I would also give 1/2cc SQ Excenel. I would get a stool sample check for coccidia.
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Old Jul 9th 2012, 12:58 PM   #3
 
  Jul 2012
  Coshocton
We have a buck fawn almost two weeks old. He has had diarrhea for a week now. He never got any colostrum from his mom. We have been giving him medicine for scours but it does not seem to be clearing him up. The only thing the vet suggested was a blood transfusion from his mom. This will cost $1000. Anyone have any other ideas?? Thank you
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Old Jul 9th 2012, 01:24 PM   #4
 
  Nov 2010
  Frankfort MI
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We have a buck fawn almost two weeks old. He has had diarrhea for a week now. He never got any colostrum from his mom. We have been giving him medicine for scours but it does not seem to be clearing him up. The only thing the vet suggested was a blood transfusion from his mom. This will cost $1000. Anyone have any other ideas?? Thank you


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Old Jul 11th 2012, 09:28 AM   #5
 
  Jul 2012
  Searsport, ME
Hello. First bare with me because I am new to this and don't even know if this is where I am supposed to post a question! I have been doing research online and am having the hardest time to find answers. I live in Maine and there are absolutely NO veterinarians willing to even talk to me about deer. I have a little fallow that is 2 weeks old tomorrow. She is acting great and eating great but having pure diarrhea every time she poops. She is eating Sav-A-Caf Grade A Ultra 24 milk replacer. She is getting 3 1/2 to 5 oz every 3 1/2 to 4 hours. Sometimes eating another bottle because she seems so hungry. We have introduced grass, grain, water, and a greens mixture. She has no interest in any of those things. I added plain yogurt to her bottles last night but that hasn't helped...yet anyway! I was going to try adding pumpkin to her bottles. Also read something about pepto? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Old Jul 11th 2012, 09:50 AM   #6
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  Apr 2009
  Vaughn, MT 59487

Cervid: mule deer,whitetail,elk,goats,bighorn & stone sheep & Alaskan dahl sheep
Yes pumkin is a good idea because it has fiber. I think you could add neomycin oral in her milk as it covers many bacterial problem in the gut that cause scours. It is made by Durvet we get it at the farm store for cattle. I put 1cc in a feeding one time a day till it has better stool. We give probitics also in the milk.
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Old Jul 11th 2012, 10:09 AM   #7
 
  Jul 2012
  Searsport, ME
Is pepto a good idea? have read a bit about that too...
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Old Jul 11th 2012, 10:13 AM   #8
 
  Apr 2009
  Medford, Minnesota
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Hello. First bare with me because I am new to this and don't even know if this is where I am supposed to post a question! I have been doing research online and am having the hardest time to find answers. I live in Maine and there are absolutely NO veterinarians willing to even talk to me about deer. I have a little fallow that is 2 weeks old tomorrow. She is acting great and eating great but having pure diarrhea every time she poops. She is eating Sav-A-Caf Grade A Ultra 24 milk replacer. She is getting 3 1/2 to 5 oz every 3 1/2 to 4 hours. Sometimes eating another bottle because she seems so hungry. We have introduced grass, grain, water, and a greens mixture. She has no interest in any of those things. I added plain yogurt to her bottles last night but that hasn't helped...yet anyway! I was going to try adding pumpkin to her bottles. Also read something about pepto? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!


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http://www.deerforums.com/vbforums/s...ead.php?t=6600

Whatever you do as a treatment... I would get fecal sample and take it to the vet and see if they find anything in it. Mine was doing what yours is now and it ended up being coccidiosis. After a week of Corid all was good.
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Old Jul 11th 2012, 10:52 AM   #9
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  May 2009
  Chillicothe, Missouri
We have had excellent results on our farm this year with this type of problem.....Useing Albon in the milk 2.5 cc in the bottle 1x day one and then 1.25cc in the bottle 1x a day for 5 days total. This has worked for us........ quickly and effectively ......Best of Luck
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Old Jul 11th 2012, 11:19 AM   #10
 
  Jul 2012
  Searsport, ME
Thanks everyone. No vet will talk to me let alone run a fecal sample or prescribe anything. I called the vet that I worked for for 7 1/2 years and they won't even do anything. I think I will call the owner tonight to see if I can sneak in and check a sample myself. I will try everything else in the meanwhile. Thanks again!
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Old Jul 11th 2012, 11:32 AM   #11
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  Apr 2009
  Vaughn, MT 59487

Cervid: mule deer,whitetail,elk,goats,bighorn & stone sheep & Alaskan dahl sheep
Krickettsfarm,

I would also use a product like Deliver with Dialine. This is a nutritional supplement but most important Dialine stops the scours loss of fluid by making the stool solid. Any cattle store would have this product or it's equal. I use 1 teaspoon per feeding one time a day. You need to control dehydration in babies very fast because in this heat a loss of fluid will cause death.
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Old Jul 11th 2012, 12:28 PM   #12
 
  Jul 2012
  Searsport, ME
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Yes pumkin is a good idea because it has fiber. I think you could add neomycin oral in her milk as it covers many bacterial problem in the gut that cause scours. It is made by Durvet we get it at the farm store for cattle. I put 1cc in a feeding one time a day till it has better stool. We give probitics also in the milk.


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Would you mind taking a look to see if this looks like the right stuff before I order it. Thanks!
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Old Jul 11th 2012, 08:06 PM   #13
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  Apr 2009
  Vaughn, MT 59487

Cervid: mule deer,whitetail,elk,goats,bighorn & stone sheep & Alaskan dahl sheep
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Yes that is what I use.
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Old Jul 12th 2012, 06:11 AM   #14
 
  Aug 2010
  Illinois
You need to act really fast- the deer might be severly dehydrated. You can do subq fluids also, don't forget. I would assume that coccidia is the issue and get some Albon. Corid is a very strong med also. Usually with deer, if you use what farmers use on goats you should be OK. You might try calling a few goat farmers in your area and getting their input. Large animal doctors are the people to speak with. People on this forum are great. But it would be really smart to determine the cause of the diarrhea- parasitic or bacterial... You can easily figure this out by looking at a slide yourself.
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