Deer Farmer

Go Back   Deer Farmer > Deer Farming Forum > Deer Health

Deer Health Deer Health and Wellness Forum - disease prevention, identification, management, control and treatments, general animal wellness strategies and issues, etc.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes

Old Apr 17th 2014, 11:11 AM   #1
 Bell's Avatar
 
  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
I don't want to waste more time and money. I would like to know what are the best times to vaccinate fawns, doe,and bucks. What factors contribute to getting a good immune response and what factors contribute to getting a poor immune response to a vaccine? How does an unvaccinated vs.vaccinated mothers first milk pass or effect a fawns immunity or immune response if they nurse. For instance, if the vaccine is given to a fawn while nursing on an unvaccinated mothers first milk is the vaccine wasted? Does the time of year or poor body condition after breeding or other factors mean I am potentially not going to get a good performance from vaccinating at a less than proper time. When vaccinations are marketed this is rarely discussed. I have spent thousands of dollars having vaccines made and purchasing them.I would like to know more if someone has helpful insight. Thanks
Bell is offline  
Old Apr 17th 2014, 11:49 AM   #2
 Show Me Racks's Avatar
 
  Aug 2012
  Billings, MO
I have been told the fawns just pass any medications through their system within the first few weeks. This being said, we still do it with in the first 24 hours if they are left on mom. The stress of trying to catch them at 3 weeks old is not good for them either. If they are bottlefed I would wait a few weeks. I am curious to see how others respond?
Show Me Racks is offline  
Old Apr 17th 2014, 06:22 PM   #3
 Whitetail Sanctuary's Avatar
 
  May 2009
  Chillicothe, Missouri


I used to do the same and always had losses even with a strick regiment of vaccines! Last couple years I have taken the words of an old deer farmer who told me......."God gives us the perfect gift of life..................And as Humans we as always ........think we know or can do better than Mother Nature.....................Only to SCREW it up"!!


*


I worm before birth,add a heavy dose of *Aurimicine crumbles right before fawning starts,worm mothers again after all fawns are born with a different wormer and repeat crumbles every 3 weeks and wean first of Sept and vaccinate then...................So far so good!


*


Best of luck
Whitetail Sanctuary is offline  
Old Apr 17th 2014, 08:07 PM   #4
 Bell's Avatar
 
  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
Thanks Wayne,

The first 3 days of the month and in times of stress 10g crumbles are added to our top coat. We also when it rains in the fawn and doe pens in the spring and summer treat our water troughs with sulfamed-G until the trough is empty or about 3 days. If water soluble powder is used we mix it thoroughly in a gallon jug with a pack of cherry jello before we put it in the trough.I would love to be confident in a vaccine. It would simplify things.
Bell is offline  
Old Apr 18th 2014, 06:31 AM   #5
 Antlershed's Avatar
 
  Apr 2009
  cental Pennsylvania

Cervid: taxidermy
I agree with Wayne. Keep mothers healthy and wormed and you should be fine to not vaccinate the fawns until fall. The only thing I give my fawns at birth any more is a tube of probiotics to get some good bugs in their bellies. I think think the best "vaccine" for newborn fawns are well drained pens that are limed twice a year, in my early on expirence, I found most my fawn problems were associated with bacteria resulting from overcrowded pens or pens with stagnant water. Weather has a lot to do with it too, if it's a cold wet spring, you are going to loose fawns wether you vaccinate or not, it's best to not gamble in that situation, you almost have to take them in to be bottle-feed if they are born in a cold rain.
Antlershed is offline  
Old Jun 30th 2014, 01:58 PM   #6
 Bell's Avatar
 
  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
After questioning my wife's Doctor, my sister a med school graduate and several DVM's about this subject I still have many questions. It seems that when vaccinating fawns within 3-6 months of birth that the vaccine will be battling the mothers colostrum. My three deAr little girls get their immunizations and they aren't given to my deAr wife while she is pregnant to pass immunity to them by way of her colostrum. The path of every bacteria and health issue is different. I think the best way to vaccinate may be to vaccinate and boost mothers then wait six months after birth and vaccinate and boost offspring. I would love to see this explained further.

We have had healthy fawns to this point this year. We just began catching them about a week ago and vaccinating for preventive maintenance. Our adult doe have not been vaccinated with this vaccine so by vaccinating our fawns before six months this time their immune responses to the vaccine should not be effected as drastically by their mother's first milk. I crave more understanding of this subject.

Thanks much for your input!!!
Bell is offline  
Reply

  Deer Farmer > Deer Farming Forum > Deer Health

Tags
immune, response, vaccines



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Discussions
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
vaccines kass7111 Deer Health 7 Feb 7th 2016 10:52 AM
Response to negative article Wild Rivers Whitetails Cervid Community 0 Jan 31st 2016 01:41 PM
This articles needs our response about Missouri! G O Whitetails Cervid Industry 10 May 4th 2014 04:25 PM
Vaccines for deer Russell Deer Health 0 Jan 30th 2014 07:42 AM
Pgc at it again!!! We need your response mrwhiteails Cervid Industry 2 Apr 13th 2012 09:33 PM


Facebook Twitter Google+ RSS Feed