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Old Jun 26th 2019, 06:52 AM   #1
 
  Jun 2019
  Tn
Need Help Fawn Not Eating

I have a 20 day old fawn that I have been hand raising since she was a couple of days old. I had her on goats milk for about a week and transitioned her to red cap. Everything has been fine up until 3 days ago. For the moment I keep her in the house and take her outside regularly to stretch her legs and eat. She will eat dirt, nibble on grass, and about 4 days ago she started eating Oak tree leaves. At first I notice she wasnít capering around the yard, which was odd because she is usually all over the place. I also noticed that she wasnít eating as much as normal. Each feeding got less and less. She drank about 2 ounces at midnight. 8 hours later and she hasnít drank a drop. She will lick the nipple and just turn her head. Her rectal temp is 101.6. She peeing and pooping regularly. Last night when I took her outside she was walking around with her tail stuck straight out. A few minutes ago she pooped twice on her own without me stimulating her. She has always peed on her own but I have always had to stimulate her to poop. Could she be constipated even though she has normal bowel movements? Could the Oak leaves hurt her gut? I made her stop eating them because thatís when I started noticing the difference in her behaviors. Her poop does appear normal. It is a very dark greenish-brown. It is tiny pieces clumped together. Most of the time it does have some opaque mucus in it. I can tell she just doesnít feel very good. I can see it in her eyes. Any advice would truly be appreciated.

Update** itís about an hour later
I have her 6 ml of sugar water and 1 ounce of Pedialyte with a syringe. She licks me and wants to suckle on my ears, but she WILL not take her bottle. She just sucks on my ears and makes her normal kitten sounds. Could the red cap milk be the problem?

Another update**
Her nose and ears are cold. Her nose is usually very warm. Iíve turn her heating bed back on to see if that helps. She keeps following me around like she does when itís time to eat. I got her to suck the bottle for a min. She drank maybe 1/3 ounce. I stuck it in her mouth a couple more times. As soon as the milk goes in her mouth she jerks her head. Iím about to go get her some real goats milks and see if she will take that. She still wants to lick my neck and nurse my ear.

Last edited by redfawn; Jun 26th 2019 at 03:35 PM. Reason: Update
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Old Jun 26th 2019, 01:24 PM   #2
 
  Jul 2012
  Kentucky
Are you warming the milk?
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Old Jun 26th 2019, 02:16 PM   #3
 
  Jun 2019
  Tn
Yes, always.
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Old Jun 26th 2019, 02:37 PM   #4
 
  Jun 2019
  Tn
I just got 3 ounces of Pedialyte down her with a syringe. Afterwards I noticed her hunkering like she does when she is going to pee. She did pee a little the she hunkered again and pooped a little slimy turd. A few minutes later I wiped her and it was runny. It is a very dark olive green color. I will say the last time I gave her Pedialyte is made her poop runny then as well. I hate to give it to her but at the same time I don’t want her to get dehydrated. I’m not entirely sure it’s the Pedialyte giving her loose stool.
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Old Jun 26th 2019, 03:37 PM   #5
 
  Jun 2019
  Tn
I have some Valbazen on hand. Should I give her some? I don’t want to make her worse off than what she is.
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Old Jun 26th 2019, 05:43 PM   #6
 
  Jun 2019
  Tn
just offered her a bottle of goat milk. She took two to three good suckles and quit. It’s like a baby when they want to nurse but can’t. I’m going to look in her throat when my husband gets home.

Her temp is 101.6 still

I force fed her 4 oz of goat milk with a syringe.

In the middle of the feeding she peed a little and was hunkered over to strain a couple of times to pee or poop. Not sure which she was trying to do but she did pass a small piece of slimey, round shaped, poop. I then used a diaper wipe to try to relieve her. She pooped a tiny piece and them a little bit of mucus. But I kept wiping just to see. She kept hunkered and straining and her hole gapped but nothing came out. She had a very good bowel movement this morning and has had a couple of small bowel movement since. If she is constipated I don’t know how. She has a least two good bowel movements every day. But until today she has never pooped on her own, so I don’t know if it’s because she is straining so hard that she is pooping, or what.
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Old Jun 26th 2019, 07:37 PM   #7
 
  Apr 2009
She's got a sore tummy. Give her a feeding of straight electrolytes. I'd give it 3 cc of peptobismal with a syringe
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Old Jun 26th 2019, 07:51 PM   #8
 
  Jun 2019
  Tn
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She's got a sore tummy. Give her a feeding of straight electrolytes. I'd give it 3 cc of peptobismal with a syringe
I have Pedialyte, but every time I give it to her she gets the runs. Is that normal? I donít have any Pepto right now. I will get some in the morning. Would gas drops be helpful?
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Old Jun 27th 2019, 08:18 AM   #9
 
  Jun 2019
  Tn
She just drank 2 ounces and I syringe fed her an extra ounce. Two ounce is all she will ever drink even though she acts hungry. Her stool has turned loose so I have started giving her pumpkin in her bottle. I can hear her stomach. It sounds fizzy.

Last edited by redfawn; Jun 27th 2019 at 09:10 AM.
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Old Jun 27th 2019, 02:08 PM   #10
 
  Jun 2019
  Tn
Update***

I just wanted to put this on here just Incase someone has the same problem as me. The only thing I kept coming across on here was cocci, ecoli, or salmonella.

My 3 week old fawns appetite started decreasing and she wasn’t running around playful like usual. I knew something was up. She finally has starting refusing food altogether and even though she isn’t lethargic, (she will get up and walk around) her poop has went from pelleted to diarrhea within 24 hours. I took a stool sample to the vet this evening.

She has Haemonchus, also called the Barber Pole worm. They said it could have been transmitted from her mother, but it also lives on the tips of grass, which she does eat daily from our lawn. It is common in whitetail deer, goats, and sheep and can lead to death because it causes anemia and severe malnutrition.

They prescribed her Cydectin (which can also be purchased at TSC if you need much). She only needed .5 cc because she weighs 7 lbs. she has to take another dose in 3 weeks. They also sent home some Endosorb to help clear up the diarrhea. I also stopped at TSC and got a tube of electrolyte gel and a tube of probiotic paste for goats since she hasn’t been eating much.

I hope this help someone in the future.

Last edited by redfawn; Jun 28th 2019 at 04:55 AM.
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Old Jun 27th 2019, 05:28 PM   #11
 
  Jul 2012
  Kentucky
Thanks for the update. I've never heard of Haemonchus. I give my deer Cydectin to worm them. please keep us posted.
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Old Jun 27th 2019, 05:37 PM   #12
 
  Jul 2012
  Kentucky
so since thats a worm i see way the cydectin.
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Old Jun 27th 2019, 06:13 PM   #13
 
  Jun 2019
  Tn
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Thanks for the update. I've never heard of Haemonchus. I give my deer Cydectin to worm them. please keep us posted.
I had never heard of it either, but from what I have read it is most common in southeastern states, which would include the state I live in. Evidently high humidity causes the little devils larva to develop rapidly. However, it also states that fawns are more vulnerable to it from Oct-March. Mom could have passed it to her though. It just makes me wonder how many peoples fawns had this type of worm but thought it was something else.
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Old Jun 27th 2019, 06:22 PM   #14
 
  Jul 2012
  Kentucky
I sent this information to my vet. He has been working with a new deer farmer that has been dealing with some fawn loss. Thanks again for the info
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Old Jun 29th 2019, 09:25 AM   #15
 
  Jun 2019
  Saskatchewan
similar problem

This sounds very similar to our fawn. she suddenly stopped eating. She was vomiting all day 2 days ago. I now have to syringe feed her. she drinks a little water regularly from a bowl but does not suckle. I think the vomiting burned her esophagus.
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