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Old Dec 20th 2013, 03:19 PM   #1
 
  Jun 2012
  Blountsville, Al
I hate to post back to back things but when it rains, you know the rest. Here goes; I came home this afternoon and found one of my doe fawns dead...... fine this morning. No signs of bloat. Stool was fine. She was born early but remained very small compared to all of the others. She displayed absolutely no signs of distress. She was as tame as a dog. The only thing that I noticed when I got to her was she had some orangeish/ reddish discharge or urine coming from her vagina. Called the vet and he said that it appeared that my buck fawn, who has hard horns, bred her. He said that when he penetrated her, he could have ruptured something in her causing internal bleeding. Has anyone had this happen to them? Just a note: she weighted about 45-50 lbs and the buck is about 110-120lbs. Please, any advice would be appreciated. My 5 year old daughter can't stop cying............... sad days ahead.
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Old Dec 20th 2013, 03:30 PM   #2
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN


did you open her up??


we have had some with abscesses or pneumonia not show any signs just dead.* Getting chased could have caused death if she had one of these issues.
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Old Dec 20th 2013, 03:51 PM   #3
 
  Jun 2012
  Blountsville, Al
Didn't open her up............I couldn't. She was our pet. Just put her in the ground. She wasn't worth anything as far as money but priceless to me and my daughter. Didn't see any signs of pneumonia. Don't know about abscesses. Don't know what could abscess. I have been lifting her tail and looking at her business every morning before work. Havent seen any discharge or swelling that would indicate estrous but not sure that means anything. I've a.I.'d deer that displayed no discharge and they took. She was just so small down there. Wondering if my vet's theory was right.......
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Old Dec 20th 2013, 04:02 PM   #4
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN


fawns can pick up bacteria and settle in their lungs, chest cavity, lymph nodes and cause an eventually fatal infection before you even know anything is wrong with them.* One sign you may see is they do not grow like the rest of the fawns, dont always catch them coughing.
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Old Dec 20th 2013, 04:21 PM   #5
 
  Jun 2012
  Blountsville, Al
I have vaccinated for that. Bacterial pneumonia vaccine=$450.00/ bottle. that sucks if she got something that I vaccinate for. Also, its a newly constructed pen. Shouldn't be any contamination. No deer from the outside. But you may be right. Do you think that my vet's theory could be right or hold merrit?
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Old Dec 20th 2013, 05:05 PM   #6
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN


I guess its always possible happens in other species.


Remember that vaccination only protects against the most common pathogens, not all that are out there.
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Old Dec 21st 2013, 05:25 PM   #7
 
  Jun 2012
  Blountsville, Al
I really don't know how pneumonia could cause an orange/ reddish discharge from her vagina. Plus, the buck fawn has been acting like a buck lately. Don't know....... guess I'll never know. All of the others are fine though. God gets the credit. He gave me the ability to have a deer farm. Its in His hands. Praise God!
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Old Dec 21st 2013, 05:42 PM   #8
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  May 2009
  St. Ignace, Northern Michigan

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Jeremy & Family Sorry to here of your loss. Like I have said many times that they are GODS animals and we are just the caretakers doing our best with what we have. I hope your daughter will* look forward to fawning time a pick another little fawn to bottle feed.
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Old Dec 21st 2013, 06:56 PM   #9
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN


your discharge was likely there because she was bred but I would think it would be likely that you would see pure blood* if there was some sort of vaginal tear from breeding.
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Old Dec 22nd 2013, 05:22 AM   #10
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  Apr 2009
  cental Pennsylvania

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This year I was separating fawns and a doe fawn slipped in with*a group of buck fawns I had in my alley way. Just last month around Thanksgiving I seen the doe fawn get bred*by a buck fawn, He*ran her around like crazy and tried time after time to mount her, I seen he was successful at least once.*She was very "stiff legged" the next day. She did not move much, for two full*days she acted sore and as if she was not feeling well. I did not get a look at her back end to see if it matched the description of what*your fawns was like,*but within a few days she was back to normal.* I can see where its*possible your fawn being small could have died from being bred. We can never rule anything out.


I also agree with others about pneumonia, its hard to rule that out as well. young fawns are vulnerable to much more than an adult. As in humans the young and*old*are more prone to*contract some*virus's/diseases*more so than the healthy adults.
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Old Dec 24th 2013, 03:49 AM   #11
 
  Jul 2010
  Grand Rapids, MI


I haw never heard of a doe fawn being killed due to the physical act of being bred, I have definitely seen my share that were killed from being chased so much. I have come to realize that one should never be surprised with deer however. A good friend of mine who has been playing with deer for 20 or so years has a saying I am reminded of from time to time. "A deer wakes up every morning trying to find a way to kill itself". This was by no means intentional, but I am not surprised to hear a vet say that. Good luck to you and your family!*
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