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Old Jul 7th 2012, 05:28 PM   #1
 
  May 2012
  Denison, KS
Hey guys i'm new to the site and deer farming. This is my first fawning season and so far not having very good luck. Im losing a lot of fawns, vet dug into a couple And said it's pneumonia. Had me start putting tetra bac in the water for 3-4 days and also we sent samples to k-state. So far I'm still losing fawns. Does anyone have any ideas of how to fix this....fawns are on there mothers, fawns are getting their water changed 2-3 times a day, they have a lot of shade all throughout the day i know the 10 or more days of 100 degree temps arent helping.

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Old Jul 7th 2012, 06:18 PM   #2
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  Columbia City, IN
What are you vaccinnating them with?
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Old Jul 7th 2012, 07:03 PM   #3
 
  May 2012
  Denison, KS
Covexin 8, bova sera, clostridium perferinges type c&d antitoxin
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Old Jul 7th 2012, 07:04 PM   #4
 
  May 2012
  Denison, KS
Also given probiotics
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Old Jul 7th 2012, 08:09 PM   #5
 
  Jan 2010
I'm having lots of problems with pneumonia the last couple weeks myself,due to the extreme heat,and i even give them a pasteurella pneumonia vaccine this year and still having losses. I have been saving some of them though by giving 2cc nuflor, 3/10 cc of banamine, 1 1/2 cc vitamin b complex. The key is catching it early enough before the get too far gone,rapid breathing is the first sign i have been noticing,or laying around the water troughs trying to cool off. and several of them I give the treatment to and think I got em on the mend and it comes back in a few days. So i have been hitting them again 48 hrs later with same treatment. The trouble is catching them to give the shots.A friend of mine is also having same problem and he is having good luck giving them 1cc of draxin. Good luck
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Old Jul 8th 2012, 07:02 PM   #6
 
  May 2012
  Denison, KS
Thanks for the replies, I'll try the nuflor on the next ones. Didn't see any signs of sick ones today maybe I'll get lucky and it's all over..
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Old Jul 9th 2012, 01:35 PM   #7
 
  Nov 2010
  Frankfort MI
is there any shade for them ?
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Old Jun 29th 2013, 08:44 AM   #8
 
  Nov 2012
  Bolton Landing NY
I apologize for tagging on to this post but I cannot figure out how to make my own thread...usually pretty savvy in that area...I am a wildlife rehabilitator and I rehab fawns, We are in Upstate NY and have had a lot of rain lately, I got a fawn in a couple of days ago, very thin, weighed about 6lbs, umbilicus scabbed but present and it has curled ears and discharge from the eyes and a little by her nose that I thought had migrated from the eye, I assumed it was dehydrated and rehydrated and gave her lactated ringers both orally and sub Q and started on milk replacer, diluted. She was taking the bottle well when stimulated and the night before last seemed to be struggling a bit -kind of grunting while being stimulated-as if she was constipated and she was pooping a little-pellets, some stuck together but no diarrhea. 1st feeding yesterday went well, again a little grunting, then some more pellets. 2nd feeding she was grunting a lot more and began labored breathing, could not finish 4oz of formula. I was concerned and took her to the vet, they did not feel a lot of stool in belly, gave 200 cc lrs sq and baytril for possible pneumonia. Her Body temp was 98, she died on the car ride home. I had our vet do a necropsy (our vets are not used to treating fawns, they do the best they can but are used to treating domestics) upon exam they found GI tract full of air, but not enough to keep diaphragm from working, left lung looked slightly congested and right upper lung very congested and there was blood in the lungs, other organs looked fine. Anyone have any input? Also, at what age does the umbilicus fall off, 1 week or longer? Thank you for any help you can provide.
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Old Jun 29th 2013, 12:22 PM   #9
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  Oct 2009
  upstate ny

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Sounds like she had her problem before you got her. So small and yes weather that sucks! I would say next time use Red Cap milk. I know that had nothing to do with her problem but i think your rehab fawns will take to the bottle faster with Red Cap.
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Old Jun 29th 2013, 12:56 PM   #10
 
  Nov 2012
  Bolton Landing NY
We currently use Ultra 24 , do you prefer red cap and where do you get it?
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Old Jun 29th 2013, 04:41 PM   #11
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We currently use Ultra 24 , do you prefer red cap and where do you get it?
Any grocery store will have it. It is just the one with the red top. Whole milk.
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Old Jun 30th 2013, 11:17 AM   #12
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  Columbia City, IN
I ALWAYS add 0.5cc of LA-200 from TSC sub-Q at birth along with my normal shots and haven't lost one for years from pnuemonia.
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Old Jun 30th 2013, 12:42 PM   #13
 
  Jun 2013
  Jackson
I know I had a problem with mine having diarrhea and I was told to put her on red cap and she has been GREAT every since I am now looking to see what solids I can feed her aside from Caf Menna
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Old Jul 3rd 2013, 09:07 AM   #14
 
  Jun 2012
  Blountsville, Al
I talked to my vet about this one because it is bound to happen at some point. He told me that Aureomycin crumbles in the feed will prevent in most cases pneumonia. Though we are talking about fawns, he said that the doe will pass down the medication through her milk. And it is good for them as well. He went on to add that it is always good to have on hand especially during the times of year when there are drastic temperature changes throughout the days. it only cost $7 so why not?
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Old Jul 3rd 2013, 10:08 AM   #15
 
  May 2009
  Northwest Illinois
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I know I had a problem with mine having diarrhea and I was told to put her on red cap and she has been GREAT every since I am now looking to see what solids I can feed her aside from Caf Menna


Cut branches off trees and give to your fawns...be careful what ones you feed as I have heard that black cherry/choke cherry can be toxic.



I'm in Northern Illinois and my fawns loved elm leaves, mulberry leaves, wild grape leaves. They ate maple some, but weren't to awful crazy over them, and would hardly touch oak leaves or hackberry.



Feed deer all the grain and hay you want, but if you throw green branches in with them that are palatable to them, they will act like they haven't eaten in ages! Good stuff!!!
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