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Old Jun 19th 2009, 11:12 AM   #1
 
  Jun 2009
  PA
I was browsing through here the other day and saw thae nutrition facts that some of you guys have for your red cap milk. I saw only 3.5 g/fat per 8 ounces? I don't know where you are gettin your red cap but the red cap (whole milk) I use has 8 g/fat per 8 ounces. The brand name is Gallikers. Any rebuttal from anyone?
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Old Jun 19th 2009, 11:58 AM   #2
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  Apr 2009
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I've stayed away from this discussion as I have no real opinion on the use of the red cap milk. If it works for you go for it.



But the one thing I do know is a whitetails does milk has 29% fat in it so I think red cap is a little short in that regard. I think healthy growth could be a factor here. There are other minerials and Vitamins red cap milk is short on from analysis compared to whitetail doe milk. Just my opinion here people I'm not wanting to fight.
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Old Jun 19th 2009, 12:13 PM   #3
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  PA

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I can't find the post you are talking about to respond...I listed numbers I got off of a nutritional website I can't find my post, so I have no idea if it's mine you are referring to...

Not being rude but...

I also don't care what other people use...I don't sell red cap milk ...

All I can say is we (me and my boyfriend) have raised deer since 1995 and have never had healthier more rounded and bigger fawns ever...I can't explain the numbers part...but can state they are healthy and great on it...

I DO NOT want anyone to change what they are doing... I don't care what anyone is doing...I don't want to fight about it anymore.

If someone needs something call, but I feel the dead horse has been beat enough...



I am happy feeding what I am feeding and hope everybody is having great luck with their fawns and happy with what they are feeding.
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Old Jun 19th 2009, 12:28 PM   #4
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  Apr 2009
  Burlington, West Virginia

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I'm with ya BJ. Enough is enough. Allen
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Old Jun 19th 2009, 12:36 PM   #5
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People on here don't know me and I my come off wrong until you meet me... but I hate drama and bullcrap games.

I love the simple life...My kids and my deer that's all it takes and I'm happy

My dad was an attorney before he passed so I can debate...When we would get in trouble...We would debate our mistakes ...We would beg ...Please just beat us and get it over like most families
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Old Jun 19th 2009, 04:21 PM   #6
 
  Apr 2009
  Fombell PA
I agree....happy with my Red Cap for now.........not debating anymore.....i want everyone to be happy and comfortable with what ever feeding system they choose.....a nice big fat healthy fawn is what we are all after in the end!!! THEN BRING ON THOSE ANTLERS!!!!!!
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Old Jun 19th 2009, 10:28 PM   #7
 
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Come on you guys I was just gettin' ready to put a good old fashioned whoopin' on somebody! Now your taking your ball and going home. I see how ya are!! ZZ
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Old Jun 20th 2009, 12:56 AM   #8
 
  Apr 2009
  Zanesville, Ohio
I thought the 3.5 was refering to percent milk fat per volume. Hence the name 2% for blue cap, 1% for light blue cap, pink cap for white water.
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Old Jun 20th 2009, 04:04 AM   #9
 
  Apr 2009
  Central Illinois
Hey Jack, Not looking for a fight but everything I've seen on deer milk list the protein at 8.2% and the fat at 7.7%. That's alot closer to the cow,goat,horse,and most other animals I've checked on. The 29% of fat content in the replacers is the dry content before mixing it with water. After mixing it is 8.6% We had this disscussion on another thread with John Swank and he helped clear up the dry vs. wet %. Rick
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Old Jun 20th 2009, 05:25 AM   #10
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Lets not forget this is a discussion forum . i think buckskin is on target, Zz i cant resist, you must be loaded with plenty info, if you come to do battle. spit it out!!, just my thinking on this whole milk deal!, i for one was a zoologic fan, when i started this was no 1, i thought i wanted best, it was more expensive,than i could have got but i wanted best, well after reading forum for few yrs,i decided ther is lot of milk that will raise a deer! so i went this yr with manna pro,Suckle.I give 35dollars 40 pounds, and so far i like it better than zoologic, easier mixing. no floating stuff, fawn went from stinky gass, almost runny poop, to starting to pellet in couple days, tell me you gotta buy, the expensive stuff, i think the protien is 22, fat 10, it is medicated, fawn is doin great, healthy. i respect the fact that the red cap crew stand firm in what they believe! it tells me, it cant be all bad. so if your tired of the milk crap dont tune in cause i gonna pry, all i can,i might have deleted study, but in short time i gonna ask for opinions, we must look pretty stupid at times to the veiwng other non particapating members, it time for all to communicate, save you private messages for, other.this is where the new farmer relys on few yrs back i was a new farmer,I still trying to learn thing or two!!Dc
 
Old Jun 20th 2009, 05:55 AM   #11
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  Apr 2009
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We feed only one thing here at our place. Bud Light. Now I know some of you are going to say we shouldn't be using Light and we should go with the higher fat content of just Bud, but we have been pleased with our results so far so we are sticking to it. Now I will admit we do use a chaser once per day to go along with the Bud Light. But hey, I mean the days get long and you can only do so much butt wiping before it gets old
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Old Jun 20th 2009, 05:57 AM   #12
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Roger i think BUSCH is much better only my thinking from past exp, DC PS if you use lite you deffinatly need JD, chaser.only my thinking !
 
Old Jun 20th 2009, 06:07 AM   #13
 
  Apr 2009
  Fountain, MN
Budlite with LIME... then you don't need chaser
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Old Jun 20th 2009, 06:16 AM   #14
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Ike the JD, is for extra nurishment, it has plenty!! Dc
 
Old Jun 20th 2009, 06:25 AM   #15
 
  Apr 2009
  Claremore, Ok
Roger I agree with you on the butt wiping thing, we just started on a set of quad doe fawns that were 3 weeks behind the rest of our doe fawns(sure wish there were some bucks in there
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