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Old Mar 8th 2010, 05:24 AM   #1
 
  May 2009
  Northwest Illinois
I have a 3 year old buck that has lost flesh and is obviously headed to death. I darted him with Draxinn as well as Ivomec on Saturday. The only other thing I know to do is to treat him for coccidia. Is there any treatment other than Corrid in water for Coccidia? My problem in using Corrid is there is standing water in his pen. I could move him to another pen, and in doing so, while he is tranquilized, is there any med I can give him that can help with Coccidia. I of course will attempt to get a fecal sample to the vet, but in the meantime, cause there might not be much time, I wanted to be moving in the right direction. And as usual, he is in the top 10% in importance. Thank you in advance!
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Old Mar 8th 2010, 05:57 AM   #2
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  Apr 2009
  Rivesville, WV

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I understand your concern. I really don't think that it could be coccidia this time of year. It may be, but I have had issues with clostridium this same time of year. The animals get it from the soil and it is worse this time of year when it is sloppy mud and rainy.



If it is clostridium you can give 10CC of the c&d antitoxin, 2CC of Alpha 7 and also some probiotics. About 4CC of Penacillin won't hurt either. I would also give him and ivormac shot for worms while you have him down.



Good Luck !!
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Old Mar 8th 2010, 02:33 PM   #3
 
  Mar 2009
  Blairstown, LA
Please explain your description "lost flesh".
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Old Mar 8th 2010, 07:16 PM   #4
 
  May 2009
  Northwest Illinois
Scott,

He lost weight.
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Old Mar 9th 2010, 07:22 AM   #5
 
  Dec 2009
  Henryetta,OK
Does he still eat and drink? Is he passing "pellets" or Diarhea? Is he passing any blood? Do you have alot of bird droppings around the feed area?



I have lost cattle to Cocidiosis, usually it acts fast, they usually die before losing too much weight. In cattle, they stop eating and they pass some blood since the intestines are being perferated. There was a feed mill on Oklahoma that got alot of cattle sick a few years ago because the feed mill had a large amount of wild pigeons crapping all over everything, they were infected with Cocidiosis and they contaminated the mill. This caused people to feed Cocidiosis to there cattle.



I have seen cattle lose lots of weight before and no matter how much you feed them, they wont gain. This can be caused by a disease attacking the intestines and causing them to thicken, when the intestines walls thicken, they stop absorbing nutrients and no matter what you feed, they will starve. Have personally had this in cattle and when blood tested, they test positive for Bovine Leukemia or Salmonella. In cattle there are several "wasting diseases" that have nothing to do with BSE / mad cow or CWD....just the symptoms are similar.



I know deer are not cattle, but they share alot of the same diseases. When my grandfathers family first settled in Indian Territory there were no diseases in cattle, every year or two you hear of a new one. I bet most of you have never heard of Anaplasmosis? Once a cow gets it she will most likely die in a few days if not treated. It is carried by vectors and contagious. My grandfather swears that he never saw a case until OK wildlife introduced whitetail deer to our ranch in the 40's or 50's. He swears the deer brought it in. I am not even sure deer can get it.
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Old Mar 11th 2010, 01:34 PM   #6
 
  Oct 2009
  Dallas,Pa
I wouldnt give any vaccine at this time it will just suck more life out of him only vacc healthy animals.
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Old Mar 11th 2010, 02:06 PM   #7
 
  Apr 2009
  Brookshire, Texas
I agree with Tundra - antibiotics and anti-toxins only for sick animals (and probiotics). Vaccines for healthy ones, just like you getting a flu shot.
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Old Mar 11th 2010, 02:21 PM   #8
 
  Apr 2009
  Tobin Lake, Saskatchewan
when a deer metabolism changes gears in the late winter /early spring they almost stop eating and any fat they are still carrying will seem to melt away as they loose condition which is important so they are not burdened with the layer of fat for the hot summer months
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Old Mar 11th 2010, 03:42 PM   #9
 
  Oct 2009
  Rush, NY
If there is standing water in the pen it could very well be e-coli. The draxxin should take care of that. But if it looks like that's not working in a last chance effort we have given Gentasen (sp?) But you can't eat the meat for 7 years. Good luck
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