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Old Sep 20th 2014, 08:15 PM   #1
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  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
We are getting it bad on our farm. We have lost more than a dozen in the last week. We have vaccinated and boosted for EHD for generations with both our vaccine and the DBC EHD vaccine. I have only had 2 show visible symptoms before death. I made a video clip of the one alive today which I emailed to Jerri Lee. I have a fresh one we will necropsy and type tomorrow. If you are in this area I would be doing every preventative measure you are able. We are losing our best. This really stinks.
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Old Sep 20th 2014, 08:32 PM   #2
 
  Feb 2011
  Pierre SD


Bell, If you have a ULV fogger, go to the water sources in your area and fog the crap out of em during the early and late morning before the temp rises and the fog all goes up instead of drifting out, you can stop EHD. I lost deer a couple years ago at a rate of 5 a day. The day I fogged the stock pond next to my pens it stopped completely and instantly. You have to use the right combination of pesticides to be effective. Don't just fog in*the pens, go after em where they live! PM me with your number*or I can send you mine and I'll let you know what I've learned from experience with EHD.


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Old Sep 20th 2014, 08:52 PM   #3
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  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
I have creeks and a river running all over our farm for miles. Little Flat Rock river basically makes a horseshoe around our farm and Hurricane Creek runs right down the center. There are miles of creek bank. My neighbor about 2 miles west is a big grain farmer. He also brokers a lot of cattle. He has a couple livestock semis. He constantly has a different bunch of cattle in his pasture. I am certain he has brought in a reservoir host carrying the virus and introduced it to our resident midges. It will stop on its own in about seven more days because of the natural life cycle of the midge and the natural course of the virus. The deer that are dying now were bitten days ago.
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Old Sep 20th 2014, 09:56 PM   #4
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN


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Old Sep 21st 2014, 06:22 AM   #5
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  Apr 2009
  cental Pennsylvania

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Oh man Jonathan, I am so sorry to hear this. I will be praying it stops.
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Old Sep 21st 2014, 09:10 AM   #6
 
  Feb 2011
  Pierre SD


I tried praying a couple years ago, didn't work out so good for the 55 deer that died. The midges 7 day cycle doesn't hold true it you have new midges hatching,*the wild deer all the way around me died from mid august until the last week in October, new*midges keep hatching as long as the weather permits. If you've ever had EHD before, the virus has never left and won't*until you break the midges life*cycle.*Midges don't travel far from the mud that they are hatched on. It might only be 5 midges out of a 1,000 midges that are carrying the virus, if you fogged around your pens in the evening, you have a dam good chance of hitting those 5 midges that are infecting your deer. don't worry about the midges 2 miles away, concentrate on the ones within a few hundred yards of your pens. If its a river big enough to float a boat on, I'd throw the fogger in the boat and you could fog*2 miles of frontage in a matter of minutes or if you can get anywhere close with an atv, the fog will drift for several hundred yards in the cool evening air and kill every one of them. EHD is around us every year, it's usually worse on dry years*because a lot of deer are watering at*the same*stagnant water sources and the infected EHD midges are swarming around it waiting for a meal to come in and get a drink. I fogged all my stock dams a couple times a week and have completely stopped it on my wild deer. I used to loose hundreds some years. I know it's not just because of the year because others find*dead ones*all around me every year. Good luck and get lotsa*Dex and Draxxin, that will save some of the ones who get it.*
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Old Sep 21st 2014, 09:30 AM   #7
 
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I have creeks and a river running all over our farm for miles. Little Flat Rock river basically makes a horseshoe around our farm and Hurricane Creek runs right down the center. There are miles of creek bank. My neighbor about 2 miles west is a big grain farmer. He also brokers a lot of cattle. He has a couple livestock semis. He constantly has a different bunch of cattle in his pasture. I am certain he has brought in a reservoir host carrying the virus and introduced it to our resident midges. It will stop on its own in about seven more days because of the natural life cycle of the midge and the natural course of the virus. The deer that are dying now were bitten days ago.




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*Your right!! cattle seem to be the vector for the disease, I have a friend in florida that had neighboring farms bring in texas cattle because of there bad drought, thats when ehd *starts , big sids is right fogging seems to be there best control, sorry i hate to here about this disease, been very lucky here in northeast Pa so far, early frost would be nice.


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Old Sep 22nd 2014, 04:08 PM   #8
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  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
Thank God!!! Thanks for the thoughts and prayers everyone! The last deer we have lost was Saturday night. We lost about 20 in seven days. It is like someone shut the spicket off Saturday night. We lost a fawn today but I don't think its death was EHD related. We did immediately start systemics in our water and the backpack sprayer was well lubed with diesel. The death had already started. I can't believe that my work alone could stop it so sudden. I hauled out pickup beds piled high in 2007.
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Old Sep 22nd 2014, 06:40 PM   #9
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  Aug 2012
  Billings, MO
Glad to hear it is looking better. Sorry for your losses, it is one of the worst parts of raising deer.
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Old Sep 23rd 2014, 04:35 PM   #10
 
  Jul 2012
  Russellville, KY


Hey Jonathan, I sent you a pm.*
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Old Sep 23rd 2014, 11:21 PM   #11
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  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
Hang in there Mike,

With a little help from Mother Nature the virus will run its course soon. A new hatch of midges must have a virus carrying reservoir host to sustain the outbreak. A few days of cooler weather will limit the flight and lives of the virus carrying vectors. Coupling that with all the infected reservoir host in the area likely dead renders the new hatch of resident midges bites harmless. This is a partial explanation of what I meant by saying the virus will simply run its course.
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Old Sep 24th 2014, 03:36 AM   #12
 
  Apr 2009
  Fort Wayne, Ind

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Sorry to here about your loses*, hopefully they are done with you and your farm
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Old Sep 24th 2014, 06:26 AM   #13
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  Feb 2013
  Markleville IN


Jonathon lost five more yesterday, a couple of*dang good does besides the good ones he already lost


I'm afraid with it heating up this weekend is not good for EHD


I'm holding my breath from feeding to feeding


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As Wayne says it has a list and the good ones are always at the top.
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Old Sep 24th 2014, 02:58 PM   #14
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  Apr 2014
  Greensburg, IN
I am wondering if anyone has any ideas for treating specifically the legs of deer with repellents. My deer already have long winter hair. I suspect that they are getting bit on the legs.
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Old Sep 24th 2014, 05:06 PM   #15
 
  Jan 2013
  NJ, deer are kept in PA
Jonathan, In my pens, I have tall grass. Maybe waist high... I use a hand held sprayer and saturate the grass on a trail that the deer use, maybe 3 feet on each side of the trail,and maybe 30' long I mean I really saturate it good. Diesel fuel and pem. Mixed heavy. As soon as I spray. My self,daughter and wife, corral the deer to make them go through this area that I sprayed. They usually pass through and get a good soaking! I have a small herd and pens aren't huge so it's kinda easy for me to do it the way I do. Just a thought. Good luck
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