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Old Jul 9th 2015, 08:03 PM   #31
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  Oct 2009
  upstate ny

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Ok Nuflor must really burn. * * Everyone got their first dose so let's hope it works. *




It will...
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Old Jul 9th 2015, 09:09 PM   #32
 
  Jul 2015
  Texas


The reaction was a bit shocking and my heart skipped a beat. *Thanks again for everyones help. *All I can do at this point is hope it works.


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I do have another question though. *Has anyone ever seen it move into the leg of the deer too? *We did get a culture off so waiting on results of that. *
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Old Jul 10th 2015, 04:39 AM   #33
 
  Sep 2010
  Wykoff, MN
Yes, fuso can be found almost anywhere in the body. Feet and mouth/jaw are the most common places. But I have had it cultured from the lungs and leg also. It is usually picked up by an open wound on the feet or mouth. Fuso is nasty stuff and can spread quickly. I waste no time in treating anything suspect.
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Old Jul 10th 2015, 06:22 AM   #34
 
  Jul 2009
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Ok Nuflor must really burn. * * Everyone got their first dose so let's hope it works. *




sorry I left that part out!!!


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I had one jump up, twitch and fall over like it was dead. Thought I had killed it. It was ok in a few minutes.
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Old Jul 10th 2015, 10:08 AM   #35
 
  Jul 2015
  Texas


Ok morning update. *Gave my 10lb girls last night 1cc of Nuflor and the little boy .5cc. *this morning all swelling in Jaws are gone. *When giving them the meds last night they got all worked up because of the burn and I noticed I could hear fluid in one of the girls chest (so let's hope it clears that up too) the other one still has swelling in the knee area so hoping this helps clear everything up. *


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dtala - the two girls shook their head a bunch after injection but the little boy went all limp noodle and almost went into a fetal position. *I thought the same thing last night but they recovered after about 30 sec. *


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I am in tears thinking about the others we lost but I hope we are on the road to full recovery with these three. *Still waiting on culture to come back.


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Soooooo....next question do I give a smaller dose no matter what in 3-5 days?
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Old Jul 10th 2015, 10:54 AM   #36
 
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I'd give a smaller dose, maybe .5 and .25, in five days. Quitting early on antibiotics is bad juju. If the bacteria is not dead it will come back and be harder to kill. One thing about Nuflor is that is seems easy for a bacteria to develop an immunity to the drug. Draxxin is not as bad about this.
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Old Jul 10th 2015, 11:31 AM   #37
 
  Jan 2013
  NJ, deer are kept in PA
I agree with dtala. Second dose should clear up any remaining bacteria
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Old Jul 10th 2015, 12:14 PM   #38
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  Sep 2009
  Utica, PA Venango Co.
I would second dose. If I had one that I thought I heard fluid in, I would second dose sooner, than the rest. If I could still hear some thing after that I may try something else,nuflor has worked well for us in the past, but we had one this year that it didn't. This year Noromycin 300LA has worked, when nuflor hasn't, and we have noticed it clear up respiratory issues quickly, 3-5 hours later.
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Old Jul 10th 2015, 03:58 PM   #39
 
  Jul 2009


Tammy, just a FYI, have a bottle of Epinephrine handy any time you give anti-biotics. Rarely, a fawn will go into anaphylactic shock from an antibiotic shot and a quick shot of Eppi is the solution. Anaphylactic will kill a fawn in just minutes. Eppi is cheap...and cheap insurance. Tape a syringe/needle to the bottle for fast access.
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Old Jul 11th 2015, 05:27 PM   #40
 
  Jul 2015
  Texas


Ok so it's been 48 hours since Nuflor dose and one girl looks like she is swelling in jaws again. *She is the one with the swilling in knee area too. *To me this looks like the fuss is there too. *Her whole upper leg to knee swelled up and now everything has moved to knee. *Looks like it may rupture. *


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So should I go ahead and give her a second dose tonight or wait until tomorrow which would be 72 hrs. *


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I will wait on the other two on second dose since they seem to be doing ok. *I will second dose them in a couple more days. *


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Oh and chest sounds so much better in the other girl too. *


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Thanks for that suggestion dtala on the Eppi.
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Old Jul 11th 2015, 07:40 PM   #41
 
  Jul 2009


Dang, I'd probably hit her again *with .5cc *Nuflor usually lasts several days, but I think it metabolizes faster than thought in deer.*


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you bad need some Draxxin.


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she will need some probiotics orally after all these antibiotics also.
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Old Jul 15th 2015, 07:40 PM   #42
 
  Jul 2015
  Texas


Ok update on my fawns. *First I want to say thank you all who took time to offer your wisdom to help save these babies. *Everyone seems to be responding very well to the Nuflor. *I had to give 3 doses to one and 2 doses to two. *One of the things we are thinking now is that one of the fawns came in with the bacteria from the major floods we had here in Wimberley. *We had 43ft flood that destroyed over 400 homes. *The bacteria was very high around the river area and several of these resue fawns came from flood areas. *I just wished I would have researched this a lot sooner but now we know. *


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So new question. *I have read on other post about worming fawns. *What are the thoughts of worming our rescue fawns since we won't be able to worm each year? *What is the best meds for that? *
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Old Jul 15th 2015, 07:53 PM   #43
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Old Jul 15th 2015, 08:02 PM   #44
 
  Sep 2010
  Wykoff, MN
I would recommend "Panacur" for bottle fed fawns. You can put it right in the bottle. Very safe and effective wormer for fawns.
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Old Jul 15th 2015, 09:26 PM   #45
 
  May 2015
  KY


Either Safeguard (fenbenazole is the ingredient, same as Panacur), cheapest option is the horse dewormer, just use a small pea-size amount. 1 tube is for 1,250 lb of animal. Effective for tapeworm is Zimecterin Plus (again*for horses), ingredients ivermectin plus praziquantel (that's for tapeworm). I use these for all critters, from kitten to chicken/turkey, sheep, dogs and the deer. The stuff must be terrible tasting though. Each animal HATES*it, the cats and dogs start salivating to get rid of the taste, the deer wouldn't eat the apple slice with the stuff on it. Had to fix several "sandwiches" (appleslices with dewormer between them). On fawn I'd just take small amount on my fingertip and smear it unto their tongue. Both products available at TSC, about $10. My sheep readily take the safeguard alfalfa cattle pellets, but it's a little higher and can't be dosaged properly.


Glad to hear the little ones are doing better!
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