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Old Mar 26th 2011, 08:15 AM   #1
 
  Apr 2009
  Medford, Minnesota
We had either coyotes or a dog trying to get into the deer pens today and almost all the deer have injuries. I woke up to the sounds of yips at 5:30 this morning and I looked out to the deer pens and saw the deer running all over so I yelled outside and then I went to get my gun and fired it up in the air to see if whatever was out there would run away. I couldn't see much at that time but I seen the deer settled down after that. After the sun came up I went out to the pen and seen all the blood on the ground everywhere. I assessed all the deer injuries and I have a couple with possible serious injuries. I have 1 tame doe with a broken front leg that is dangling but the bone is not protruding through the skin. I have been reading that letting it heal by itself might be the best bet so I would like some insight on what people have done in the past. I also have a buck that hadn't shed his cutoffs yet and they were busted off. I am hoping this wont damage his new antlers this year. I did take a couple of pics and will post them so somebody might be able to see if they think it wont affect this years growth. My biggest problem now is what to do to prevent this from happening again tonight or in the future. I would appreciate help with suggestions on what would be most affective in keeping coyotes away.

Thanks...Dave
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 08:31 AM   #2
 
  May 2010
  Glasgow, ky
Sorry about the misfortune!!...electric fence? Also they make electronic "predator-eyes"?
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 08:46 AM   #3
 
  Apr 2009
  Medford, Minnesota
Here is a couple pics. of the Bucks antlers. I don't know how well they will show, I down sized the resolution for the post.
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 09:38 AM   #4
 
  Sep 2010
  Wykoff, MN
Dave, i think your buck will be just fine. I have had bucks bleed that bad when they shed. It appears that he didn't damage the pedicle. He was probably close to shedding anyhow.

Sorry about what happened. Good luck! (Do your neighbors have any dogs? that is what i would suspect)
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 10:09 AM   #5
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  Oct 2009
  upstate ny

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Dave sorry to hear this.I had the same thing one time.I know people say electric and mabey its good but i could not sleep untill i put preditor fence along the bottom of my deer fence.If you take 2 or 3 feet of any kind of page wire and get some of those hog rings,take the page wire up your deer fence 6 to 8 inches and connect it with the hog rings.Take the rest of the fence and lay it out on the ground.We went around and covered ours with dirt and let the grass grow up through it.More or less you have 2 feet of fence on the outside of your deer pens so when you or a yote or dog are walking around the outside of your fence you are actually walking on the fence under your feet under the ground.When something starts digging to get in they run into the fence after they dig a couple inchs and soon give up.If anything gets in here they have to go over the top!!!
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 10:36 AM   #6
 
  Apr 2009
  Medford, Minnesota
Pokeweed do you have a link for this electronic "predator-eyes"? I haven't heard anything about it.



Adam I hope you are right, I sure would think he would have shed them sometime soon. My neighbors have dogs but the noises I heard were Yips and not barks or growls and thats why I am leaning towards coyotes. I have dogs of my own that were in the house at the time this happened and the funny thing about that is they are alerted at the drop of a pin ( they are Dobermans ) but they didn't react to the Yipping outside. I woke up from a sleep and heard it.

I am thinking about getting some, I think it's called Golden Marlin Fly Bait to set out in the woods. Any suggestions about putting out fly bait.
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 10:42 AM   #7
 
  Apr 2009
  Medford, Minnesota
Thanks Mike,

That's one good thing, whatever it was they couldn't dig under the fence cause our ground is still froze here. It was the chasing around the fence that ran the deer into things. That is a good idea though as the weather warms up here in Minnesota.
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 11:26 AM   #8
 
  Feb 2011
  Pierre SD
I had coyotes or possibly a fox try and dig under my fence in 3 places the first night I had my 5 acre enclosure completed, no deer in it yet at the time. I was so nervous so I put up electric wire all around the bottom the next day, 6-8 inches off the ground and it's been close to a year with nothing getting into the pen or even a deer crash. I just used the poly weave string wire, its simple to put up and doesn't cost much either. I live where coyotes howl within a couple hundred yards almost nightly but after they get "rolled" by the hot wire they never come near it again, I have 4 labs that also have tested it and they will not go within 50 yards of that pen. It even carries a charge through the snow if it's covered. I also have a little lap dog that goes into the pen with me and they will run right up and lick his face but if my cat is prowling around they watch that thing like a hawk. I think if you can get them used to a pet dog during bottle feeding it will make your deer allot more calm. I have neighbors all around that have dogs barking all the time and used to come through the yard but I know they have all gotten zapped and seem to never return, they remember electricity, and I know somehow they can smell or sense it. I run over a 1,000 head of yearling cattle with 2 smooth electric wires and they won't go near it when its on but if for some reason it shorts itself out, they can also sense that it's not charged and will crawl right thru or over it so check it every day. For the cost and peace of mind it's a no brainer. I'm sure the buried wire will keep em out but electricity will scare em away for good most times, they don't have to be in the pen to injure your deer, just get 2 yotes trying to get in from a couple different sides for just a couple minutes and you could have a disaster on your hands. Most likely this time of year it would be a pair together that caused the problem. Keep us posted and good luck.
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 11:40 AM   #9
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  Oct 2009
  upstate ny

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Dave a few golden marliin meatballs will do the trick for ya!!!
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 12:01 PM   #10
 
  Nov 2010
  Frankfort MI
I like the bacon dangleing on a hot wire story.funny stuff there.Maby a slice of deer steak on the wire would teach them to not want deer.
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 12:25 PM   #11
 
  May 2010
  Glasgow, ky
Try this guy here he deals in them....hope this helps...I've never heard anything pos or neg on them...a few people were selling them at the nadefa convention.



Henry Martin

Alpha & Omega Whitetails

228 West Church Street

Annville, Pennsylvania 17003

(717) 507-6385

hmartin@comcast.net
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 01:21 PM   #12
 
  Apr 2009
  Medford, Minnesota
sdbigbucks: I will defiantly be putting some juice on the outside of the fence this spring when the ground thaws. You are right, that way if they hit it at least it might detour them from coming back.



Mike: the wife went to Fleet Farm to get the golden Marlin fly bait. I hope it works, the info. I read on it said a animal has to ingest quite a bit to die from it but I heard elsewhere that it doesn't take much so who knows, It's worth a try.



I scouted my property for coyote tracks and came across a wild deer bedded down by our evergreen trees and it was hurt. There was blood all over the snow where it was at and when I quietly approached the deer it trotted away with a limp. I think it might have been a victim of the coyotes also. I am going to set up a game cam to see if it catches any images and hopefully the flash will also scare them off.



Thanks for the lead Pokeweed, I will check it out.
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 02:08 PM   #13
 
  Aug 2010
  Illinois
re broken leg

If you can, try to splint it to give it some support, for at least a few weeks. I also would give a shot of Excede SQ and also Banamine (to treat the swelling). Once a firm callous forms, it will help create support for the leg. My deer recovered from a total spiral fracture of the hind tibia, but she had two different (inadequate) splints made which she wore (tolerated) for 3 weeks, but had significant pressure soars (b/c her urine would leak onto the bandages frequently). I tried to keep her bandages as clean as possible, but it just couldn't be helped b/c when she urinated, she would rub her hind legs together... She is doing great now, almost perfectly healed. I would hate to hear an amputation story, if there is no compound fracture present. You have to sedate her, and appropriately bandage and splint her, probably 2-3 times in 2-4 weeks time. Please try.
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 02:36 PM   #14
 
  Feb 2011
  Pierre SD
Dave, When you get it up you'll no doubt accidentally bump into it or touch it with a piece of wire or something and the jolt will scare the S*#T out of ya, makes your whole body feel like someone hit your body from all sides with a sledge hammer and maybe even make you scream a lil bit!! After that you'll know exactly why they fear the juice!! I just used the plastic insulators that i screwed into the wood posts, about every 40' ft apart, the insulators are about 6-8 inches long and will keep your hot string out far enough so it won't short out against your fence, far enough away so they won't go over it or under and are sure to touch it. The poly string works better because it has a little stretch in it and easy to handle. Oh and when you get a charger, get one that plugs in rather then solar if you can, lot less maintenance. Good luck!
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Old Mar 26th 2011, 04:04 PM   #15
 
  Nov 2010
  Frankfort MI
for the leg .At the drug store they sell the cement cloth that you make a cast with. It sets up real fast also. When it was used on me they first wraped a socklike material on first then the cast material . just get it wet and wrap it on. while its healing you can think of a way to get it off someday.
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