Jim , I love those 45 degree drops--that is one of my favorite traits in a buck. Maxbo 727 has shown to pass down that same trait. I have a couple of 727 does that I would like to try your buck on. Sam, I would like to have a dime for every inch of antler on your farm this year. All of our bucks were born on our place, and I love to see people invest in our genetics. Checks in the mail are good, but the older I get, I get my kicks from seeing bucks blow my mind. I have spent a hell of a lot of money to aquire what I believe to be the best and most consistint genetics in the world. I dont care who you are, if you have the buck with the look, genetics and proven background that I think will move our program forward-I will breed some does to your buck. Everyones deer are looking great. I may not be popular with the guys who are trying to make millions of dollars, but through extensive selective breeding- I can guarantee you that I can put great pedigeed bucks on your farm that will have what you are looking for on thier heads. Darren