Here in South Dakota the mountain lions are so out of control they have about wiped out the new elk and deer crops the last few years. In the Black Hills of western SD they collared 70 elk calves this summer and out of 70, one made it to the fall without being killed by lions. They figure there is 125 breeding age females inthe Black Hills that will have an average of 3 cubs each, the season ends when they kill 70 lions or 50 females and this year they killed 14 the opening weekend with no snow and are NOT allowed to even use dogs. The last time i did the math, 3 cubs times 125 females is about 375 new ones born each year. Why in the heck would anyone in the DNR think killing 70 would help the problem, it looks to me like its a good time to start a high fence hunting ranch here. If you can keep the cats and DNR biologists out it just might be the only place left to hunt, deer and elk that is. The remaining deer are getting rubbed out by all the doe licenses they are giving away along with free proccessing vouchers if you donate it to the hungry, every trigger happy killer is shooting the heck out of the buck producing does along with probably 10-20% button bucks. I really think the high fence deer hunts will be a thing of the future if you want to hunt where there is big bucks with a rifle. The end product MOST of the low fence sportsman want is shooter bucks, your not going to make more shooter bucks if you butcher all your does and a high percent of your button bucks right, the common sense is about gone in this country I'm afraid. It too bad for the sportsman but good for the deer farmer I guess. Times are a changin.