bottle feeding fawns

Has anyone used goats milk instead of milk replacer?

If so what were your results, and did you pastureize or feed raw?

Thanks

Daren Lewis

Lawrence Creek Whitetails

We haven't used goats milk but we have had great results with Jersey cow milk. The fawns had silky coats, excellent pellet poop, no scours, and grew as big as the non bottlefed babies. Definatly will do again this year.

Luv2watchemgro said:

Has anyone used goats milk instead of milk replacer?

If so what were your results, and did you pastureize or feed raw?

Thanks

Daren Lewis

Lawrence Creek Whitetails

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I used it last year cause the doe fawn was already started on it when I picked her up. I couldn't find a farmer to supply me so I ended up buying pasteurized goats milk at a health food store and I paid close to $4.00 a quart so I'm glad she was the only fawn on it. I would use pasteurized if you decide to try it cause fawns are so susceptible to so many things and I wouldn't want to take a chance of the goat passing something on to he fawn. The fawn didn't do bad on it but it might of done better on something like mike was mentioning. I wouldn't use it again but I can't say it was bad either. That fawn that used it turned out great.

vikingwhitetails said:

I used it last year cause the doe fawn was already started on it when I picked her up. I couldn't find a farmer to supply me so I ended up buying pasteurized goats milk at a health food store and I paid close to $4.00 a quart so I'm glad she was the only fawn on it. I would use pasteurized if you decide to try it cause fawns are so susceptible to so many things and I wouldn't want to take a chance of the goat passing something on to he fawn. The fawn didn't do bad on it but it might of done better on something like mike was mentioning. I wouldn't use it again but I can't say it was bad either. That fawn that used it turned out great.

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well the deal with goats milk is that the ( CURDS ) are small this makes the milk from the goats VERY easy to deges, if you can get it great? if not use red cap, goats milk will cost you , but worth it , get it if you can

Anyone ever used cows milk straight from the cow ? I know some Amish around who have with no problems.

I know lots of folks who use goats milk and love it and would not use anything else.

Used Raw Goat milk the first year we had fawns lost everyone of them switched to red cap "Vit D" from store have not lost one since no runs or sickness at all will not use anything else

Daren, I have used goats milk for the past 3 years with GREAT results. If you can get it I would highly recommend it. Google goat milk producers in Oklahoma and you can find someone to use. Sharon Babcock is in Mannford. She raises milk goats. I start my fawns at 8 oz. three times a day and increase them at 2 oz. every 4-5 days without any problems. Works great for me. If I can help out give me a call.

Wayne, I'd be scared to death of Johnes disease.(sp) it shows up 2-3 years after they contract it.

Thanks everyone, we buy goats milk from a lady close to where we live and we love it.

Tastes so much better than red cap milk.

It is kind of pricey, 8 dollars a gallon.

When you use red cap milk is that all you feed or do you mix it with replacer?

Michael, thanks for the reply.

Sharon Babcock is who we have been buying from.

She had a great operation, and some great tasting goats milk.

Arrowhead Whitetails said:

Wayne, I'd be scared to death of Johnes disease.(sp) it shows up 2-3 years after they contract it.

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Thanks Michael !

I just know of her. I feed about 1500-1750 gallons of milk to my fawns each years. They do very well and there isn't much difference between them and the doe raised fawns at weaning time.

i have used goats milk the last 5 years n pasteurized except last year I used non pastrurized goats milk for the first 2 weeks than went to 50/50 goats milk n red cap with shock effect liquid dispersible best luck I ever had

Sounds worth trying.

Thanks for the input.

Do you use stright red cap milk, or add a replacer to it????? Has anyone used the shock effect dispersible with regular storw bought red cap milk?

Last year we used raw cow milk that is certified for human consumption mixed 50/50 with River City Fawn Formula (mixed to specifications then 50/50) and had real good luck with it. We microwaved the raw milk first, then added in the River City and shook to mix. The raw milk we were buying for $2.85 a gallon. At this point we're planning on the same thing again this year.

gameroom said:

Do you use stright red cap milk, or add a replacer to it????? Has anyone used the shock effect dispersible with regular storw bought red cap milk?

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This is all we have done for a few years now!

A lot of farms use goats milk. However, it seems a lot of farms switched to Red Cap recently, which is just whole milk you can purchase at the store. I know some farms mix it with milk replacer and some farms feed it as is.



My family and I purchase our milk for personal consumption from a farm certified to sell Raw Milk. They are subject to more stringent testing because they sell Raw Milk, however, they do not test for Johne's (pronounced “Yo-nees”), I asked them because I was going to feed my fawns this raw milk. Obviously, if they don't test for it, I will not use it and will feed Red Cap instead.



Here are a few facts about Johne's Disease from johne'sdisease.org :



* Research shows that, today, one out of 10 animals moving through livestock auction facilities has Johne’s disease.



* National Animal Health Monitoring Systems (NAHMS) study, Dairy 2007, shows that 68.1 percent of U.S. dairy operations are infected with Mycobacterium avium paratuberculosis (MAP), the bacteria known to cause Johne’s disease.



* Dairy 2007 also suggests that at least one out of every four U.S. dairy operations may have a relatively high percentage of Johne’s-infected cows in their herds.