Buckeye Fall Auctions Catalog is Online

The Catalog for the Buckeye Whitetail Auctions Fall Trophy & Breeder Auction to be held October 28 & 29 - 2011 is now available for you to view on

http://www.whitetaildeerfarmer.com/BuckeyeAuctions.htm



This is a great lineup with some great pedigrees



Thank you to all the consignors

Don't be scared if you don't see your ad online. There are still a few ads that we are waiting on before it goes to the printers. We will update the online version as well when it is totally complete.

what does a booth cost

Looks like a great group you have put together mark!!! Should be another great show for you guy's!!!

Freedom Whitetails said:

what does a booth cost

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We still do have some booth spaces available. $250 for a 10x10 space or $400 for a 10x20. We also give a free booth to anyone that has 3 lots in the sale. All booths include a table with skirting, chairs and electricity.

Four Seasons Whitetails said:

Looks like a great group you have put together mark!!! Should be another great show for you guy's!!!

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I think we have a great lineup. There will be something there for everyone from the beginner just looking to get started to the top breeder looking to further enhance their genetics. I will say that it was a very tough job selecting the lots for the sale. Thanks to the people that volunteered their time and efforts to help with the jury process. You efforts made our job a lot easier. To those of you that are wondering how an auction jury works. After all lots are submitted they are given to a group of experienced deer farmers. Each person then ranks each animal from 1 to 10. We then add up the score for each lot with the highest ranking lots being selected. Lots are ranked according to current market.

Congrats to Mark for putting together a great looking sale book. I only have seen the online version since I am out of the country working and haven't seen my mail recently, but the online version looks great. The sale certainly does have something for everyone in it.

However I want to remind everyone to carefully review and study the pedigrees and if anyone has questions about an animal being offered they should contact the sellers on them. As with EVERY sale there are mistakes in the sale book. Of course these mistakes can happen while trying to put together a large number of lots and sifting through the information submitted by folks for their consignments.

Also inaccuracies happen because frankly some folks simply don't really KNOW their own deer they are offering. Or some may simply not be truthful about their deer either.

Anyway you want to look at it as I have said for years everyone has to be wise and make smart choices as buyers.

As I am rather informed about the Flees lines and the Maxbo lines and some others I was able to spot what to me is an obvious error in some pedigrees. One in particular says the animal offered goes back to the same doe as Hardcore and with my knowledge and by looking at the pedigree in the book this simply isn't the case. The doe listed has a name which is the same as the "anchor doe" for Hardcore, but it can't be the same animal.



I want to make some corrections or additions to one of the 2 lots I have offered as well. My information wasn't clear for Mark to read and I have also updated information also.

Disregard the comments in the book and instead use the following comments.



Lot 137



Cagney is a 2009 doe. She was A/I'ed the fall of 2010 and took giving twins. She is big bodied and is an Updraft daughter. Updraft scored 268"@2 and 317"@3 and this year is reported to be even bigger at age 4. Updraft has one of the very deepest pedigrees ever offered from the Flees genetics. He has Pebbles 5 times, Poncho 4 times and Bucky twice. In there is the Grandma to Hardcore once also.

Cagney's mother Madison has a son who scored 155"@1 and scored 194"@2 with a 6x5 mainframe last year. This year the son is estimated to be between 230" and 260" at age 3. So in this offering your getting a daughter from a proven doe and one of the very deepest Flees lines in the country.

I am so confident in this breeding that I myself have a doe fawn I am keeping that comes out of this same breeding.

This doe is offered open and is ready for pickup now before the breeding season. I am very confident you will produce bucks well over 200" with this doe. Good luck to the bidders and congrats to the buyer who gets her!



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good job,take a positive post and throw some negitive in there.I am sure most would not lie about something that someone could go find the info on their own.

IndependenceRanch said:

Congrats to Mark for putting together a great looking sale book. I only have seen the online version since I am out of the country working and haven't seen my mail recently, but the online version looks great. The sale certainly does have something for everyone in it.

However I want to remind everyone to carefully review and study the pedigrees and if anyone has questions about an animal being offered they should contact the sellers on them. As with EVERY sale there are mistakes in the sale book. Of course these mistakes can happen while trying to put together a large number of lots and sifting through the information submitted by folks for their consignments.

Also inaccuracies happen because frankly some folks simply don't really KNOW their own deer they are offering. Or some may simply not be truthful about their deer either.

Anyway you want to look at it as I have said for years everyone has to be wise and make smart choices as buyers.

As I am rather informed about the Flees lines and the Maxbo lines and some others I was able to spot what to me is an obvious error in some pedigrees. One in particular says the animal offered goes back to the same doe as Hardcore and with my knowledge and by looking at the pedigree in the book this simply isn't the case. The doe listed has a name which is the same as the "anchor doe" for Hardcore, but it can't be the same animal.



I want to make some corrections or additions to one of the 2 lots I have offered as well. My information wasn't clear for Mark to read and I have also updated information also.

Disregard the comments in the book and instead use the following comments.



Lot 137



Cagney is a 2009 doe. She was A/I'ed the fall of 2010 and took giving twins. She is big bodied and is an Updraft daughter. Updraft scored 268"@2 and 317"@3 and this year is reported to be even bigger at age 4. Updraft has one of the very deepest pedigrees ever offered from the Flees genetics. He has Pebbles 5 times, Poncho 4 times and Bucky twice. In there is the Grandma to Hardcore once also.

Cagney's mother Madison has a son who scored 155"@1 and scored 194"@2 with a 6x5 mainframe last year. This year the son is estimated to be between 230" and 260" at age 3. So in this offering your getting a daughter from a proven doe and one of the very deepest Flees lines in the country.

I am so confident in this breeding that I myself have a doe fawn I am keeping that comes out of this same breeding.

This doe is offered open and is ready for pickup now before the breeding season. I am very confident you will produce bucks well over 200" with this doe. Good luck to the bidders and congrats to the buyer who gets her!



Thanks for looking

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Anyone that sees any mistakes on their lots please contact me asap. As as now the catalog is not in print yet. We have until Thursday to make corrections. We try our very best to avoid misprints as much as possible but as Roger said anytime you are dealing with 250+ pedigrees in a short period of time there are bound to be mistakes. As you can see the online version of the catalog is not quite complete. I wanted to get it online as soon as possible so most consigners can check out their lots and notify us of any mistakes.

I have heard how some consignments come into you auction guys also. Hand written and not very legible. Plus the number of them and the time frame in which you guys have to get them all sorted through and put through the jury process and all. It is a wonder how you guys all get the books done as nicely as you do.

Thanks Roger. We try to do our best. We do have some come in that are very hard to read. Plus when they are faxed it is harder yet to read. The ideal way to submit your lots is to have the the comments in a Word document. That way I can copy and paste. All in all it went very smoothly this time around. Most consigners do a great job of making their pedigrees and comments clear. Thanks again to everyone for submitting the quality lots you did. I am very excited for this sale

Roger how far back will your maxbo knowledge take you.Hardcore has little boomer over a pebbles doe on his bottom side.......Got her tag number??? Or anyone have it for that matter!!!

Four Seasons Whitetails said:

Roger how far back will your maxbo knowledge take you.Hardcore has little boomer over a pebbles doe on his bottom side.......Got her tag number??? Or anyone have it for that matter!!!

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Hardcore's mother is B-37.

B-37's mother is O-105.

O-105's mother is Pebbles.

Pebbles died on the Flees farm years ago. She never left their farm and neither did O-105 for that matter. Blue 37 was purchased by David and taken to OK many years ago and eventually produced Hardcore along with several other big sons.

Regardless of tag numbers it is not physically possible for Pebbles to have been bred to Palmer. In fact I think Pebbles may have already died before an A/I program was started at the Flees farm. The doe you have in your pedigree is called Pebbles and was bred to Palmer. However it is not the same Pebbles that goes back to Hardcore. If you have any doubts about what I am saying feel free to call Greg Flees and ask him.

Pebbles was one of the "untouchables" at the Flees farm so she would have never been sold. I myself tried to buy O-105 but they wouldn't sell her to me. She instead was sent to their hunting ranch to live out her days there.



I am rather familiar with Little Boomer and Pebbles. Together as I said above they produced O-105 who produced B-37. O-105 crossed with Buster produced R32 who produced Y0289 who I owned and bred to Bucky Jr to produce IR Dolly (now owned by Will Ainsworth) who produced Updraft (now owned by Will also) and Downdraft.(who I and Steve Smith from OK own together) Little Boomer and Pebbles also produced Little Pebbles who mothered several big sons herself. I at one time owned a Bucky/Little Pebbles doe named Bubbles. She is now owned by Rod at Breezy Hill Whitetails in WI.

It is unfortunate when multiple animals in the industry have the same name. It can become confusing if a person doesn't memorize every detail about a bloodline. I unfortunately for several years didn't have a life and learned way too much about some deer in the country

Roger i hate to say you dont have a life...But i have to give you credit on this one.After further review there was a screw up in jeff synders paperwork which is where i bought the fawn and he is russ sr's right hand man and i believe the mom to mine came off russ's farm.We all know walks dont buy a deer for no reason and russ jr bought the twin to mine.He wanted both but mine was spoken for already..Anyway back to the paperwork,my doe fawn on the anchor should say flee's over pebbles with her tag number as y0112. then it would be savage bred to pretty girl to come up with palmer and then palmer bred the doe out of the flee's/pebbles y112 breeding and came up with the mom of mine.So i say good eye on catching that one and it will be fixed but i would still like to find out if y112 was pebbles tag number.All reports i am getting is that the anchor is what it says it is and goes back to hardcore and many other great bucks!!

Roger i spoke to the man himself today.Russ sr owned a doe with a name of PEEBLES whose parents are a buck from flees farm with#29 as a tag number over the girl herself PEBBLES. If you see they are 2 different spelling and the ad in marks book or on my website does not go deep enough to show the PEBBLES breeding.Russ said to give anyone with doubts to feel free to call him and he will give you all the info and dates when he took her off the flees farm!!! So bottom line i guess is i am selling what it says i am and she has the anchor to hardcore and so many other big bucks in her pedigree!!

If your fine with how your lot is being represented then go with it. I sure wasn't trying to cause an issue for you. Regardless of how Pebbles is or isn't placed in the pedigree, the lot is still a nice lot and will produce for the buyer.

Take care and good luck with your lot.

The catalogs are being printed and should be in everyone's mailbox by Oct 5.