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Deer Farmers Accuse NC Agency of Stoking Fear and Raiding Farms

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Deer Farmers Accuse NC Agency of Stoking Fear and Raiding Farms


By Benjamin Brown


News Observer

November 18, 2014




 RALEIGH — One by one Tuesday morning, deer farmers stood before state lawmakers to accuse the state Wildlife Resources Commission of targeting their industry, unfairly stoking fears about a disease fatal to white-tailed deer and being overly aggressive while raiding farms with un-permitted deer.


“I had to go get nerve pills. I stayed up for days. My wife cried for weeks,� Asheboro deer farmer Wayne Kindley told a House committee of a 2011 visit wildlife commission officials paid to his farm. He said they hastily shot nine of his deer they had determined were unlicensed and treated him and his wife “like criminals.�


“You guys need to put a check on Wildlife,� Kindley on Tuesday told the committee that oversees the operations of the wildlife commission, a state government agency the legislature created in 1947 to sustain fish and wildlife and regulate sportsmen activities such as hunting.


In all, five farmers and one wildlife manager spoke at the meeting, which follows a late-October vote from the commission to exempt white-tailed deer or elk from a new state law lifting a moratorium on deer farms.


North Carolina has 37 farms that raise deer for their antlers and meat and to sell outside the state for hunting.


The decision to keep the moratorium on white-tailed deer and elk has pitted deer farmers, who want to expand their herds and build a bigger industry, against hunters who are worried that such expansion could introduce disease into the state’s deer population. Hunters had pushed to exclude white-tailed deer and elk because of their vulnerability to chronic wasting disease, a fatal and contagious affliction comparable to mad cow disease.


Neither members of the commission nor its supporters had the chance to speak at the meeting, though the commission’s executive director, Gordon Myers, afterward rebutted the claim that his agency is attacking the industry.


“The wildlife commission is focused on risk management for disease introduction and transmission,� Myers said.


While confirmed in other states, North Carolina has no known cases of chronic wasting disease, and Myers said he wants to keep it that way. State law currently forbids the commission from issuing permits to bring out-of-state deer or elk into North Carolina before July 2017 to prevent importing the disease.


A map current as of October from the Chronic Wasting Disease Alliance shows at least 14 U.S. states and two Canadian provinces with confirmed cases of the disease in captive populations. Additional states have seen wild deer infected.


Fears ‘overblown’


Carl “Skip� West, third vice-president of the North American Deer Farmers Association, said there’s no evidence of captive deer infecting wild deer. The wild is where the disease originates, he said.


Speaking to the WRC oversight committee Tuesday, West suggested North Carolina would be wise to loosen up on deer farms for their ability to provide hard workers a living and improve the economy.


Jon Charles, a deer biologist and president of Delta Wildlife Management, told the committee that chronic wasting disease fears are overblown in North Carolina when it comes to deer farms and that he has tried on numerous occasions to educate the Wildlife Resource Commission but never hears back.


“A lot of the (WRC) commissioners – well, obviously all the commissioners – they don’t have any experience in the captive cervid (deer) industry,� Charles said.


Tommy Hall, a Union County deer farmer, told the committee he too has tried to impress upon commissioners that the disease threat is exaggerated. He said some are engaging in “fear mongering, nonfactual information and lies.�


Rules have worked


But Dick Hamilton, a former director of the wildlife commission, who is now coordinator of the Camo Coalition, a network of sportsmen under the N.C. Wildlife Federation, said after the meeting that the state’s tight eye on the disease is why North Carolina is free of it. “There’s still deer farmers, and they’re still making a living,� he said.


But there aren’t nearly as many deer farms as there used to be in North Carolina, said Tom Smith, the retired CEO of Food Lion who now presides over the N.C. Deer and Elk Farmer’s Association. That’s because, in part, of the wildlife commission’s buying out deer farmers and to a moratorium on new ones (now lifted by the language in the state’s current budget), he said. Today, there are 37 permitted deer farms in the state.


Smith and associates have urged the legislature to strip the commission of deer farm authority and place it within the N.C. Department of Agriculture.


“We are farmers. It should be under the agricultural department,� Smith said. “It would seem North Carolina Wildlife would realize this and recommend that we be transferred to the North Carolina Department of Agriculture. Instead, they have fought every attempt.�


Committee members raised questions Tuesday but directed them only to the six speakers, keeping the commission or other parties from rebutting. That concerned Rep. Ken Waddell, a Chadbourn Democrat.


“We’ve heard the comments of deer farmers,� he said. “Are we going to be able to hear from folks who might have opposition to deer farmers?�


Rep. Roger West, a Marble Republican and the committee’s chairman, wasn’t eager.


“Well, you know some of the things I’ve heard at my end of the state, I’m not sure I want to hear from them,� he said. “That’s intimidation, and I don’t want to be intimidated in this committee.�


“Well, I don’t want to be intimidated,� Waddell replied. “But I want to get all the facts together.�


Rep. Garland Pierce, a Democrat from Wagram, called the farmers’ comments shocking.


“If this is true, we need an investigation,� he said.


But it’s not the full picture, Myers said. “This meeting provided, I would say, a single perspective.�


Benjamin Brown writes for NCInsider.com, a government news service owned by The News & Observer.

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I saw this posted today on the Facebook page posted by Gary under members only. It is good to see that educating the uninformed is making a difference in the NC general Assembly.
 
Once again the liberal news coverage that was there reported only about 65% of the hearings we had . But it was past time that the wildlife was brought up and shown to the legislature for how some of the practices they have done have gone un noticed and not been held accountable for. Im not sorry one bit for us getting up and telling the house truthful information and documented facts. Its been past time for them to answer up for some of the wrong doings they have done. You should have seen the wildlife guys run to the news guys and try and start their damage control and get directly in front of the cameras and offer statements saying that what they were accused of was not correct  . Funny thing was that the director of wildlife came to where  Skip and I were talking and he wanted to be real nice and put on a good show of concernAnd admitted in front of Skip and myself that those incidents had occurred.  :lol:  It would have been nice if you heard all of the truthful statements and data that was told that could not be disputed. This is Agribusiness and has been since 1908 .
 
I can't understand how they justify having deer farms under wildlife. It isn't! It has zero affect on wild deer populations or hunting. It would be like wildlife regulating horses. Horses were once wild and still are many places but no one is stating wildlife agencies should oversee them!!! Saw a health certificate issued by West Virginia by their wildlife dept. For deer movement. It is titled captive wildlife! Really??? These deer were never wildlife. They did not come out of the wild and they will never be released into the wild. Again zero affect on wildlife! So why should they have anything to say about it????
 
Bottom line is now the wildlife ass is in a sling and they have been brought out in from of the state legislators and heard facts based testimony and now have to figure how to deal with it. Sometimes the truth hurts. And again when you have a bill signed into law by the Governor to allow new licences and export of deer and deer products and the wildlife thinks the can defy a law .They donnit have legislative powers to do so and need to be held accountable or brought up on charges. I'm glad a investigation can be launched by the legislature on them.Heck the prior director was fired for some shady stuff while on state time. Now he is the camo coalition leader of their little club and just cannot see how a guy that was fired can still walk around the state grounds and hold his head up on public. I urge everyone to do the same and contact your state legislatures and if you have been wronged or been misinformed or misled by the agency that has say so over your private business be honest and ask for a hearing to make a report of the actions done by that agency.It's our business that are legimate and are being attacked and we need to speak out and protect our business and private property rights.Again we test 100% before any movement wildlife agencies exempt themselves from USDA protocols and can move whatever they want with out oversight. Just like the second poor management decisision at wind cave again!!!
 
Also Wild Rivers,  In Minnesota we are the number one state in turkey production.    The turkey industry doesn't have to inventory or report escapes to the DNR.  Yet the DNR doesn't even want to go there!!   They have wild turkeys, and domestic turkeys.  The wild turkey wasn't in the wild here until the late 1970's and 80's.  The DNR brought in wild turkeys from Missouri, under the objection of the turkey growers, that were concerned about disease being spread.  The DNR thumbed their noses at the Turkey Growers Assn. and brought them in anyway.  The DNR has no oversight.


Also North Carolina reclassified the feral hog as wildlife two years ago.   They are nothing but escaped hogs.  Hogs have never been in the wild in the U.S., until man got involved.


Should the wildlife agencies have jurisdiction over Pheasants?  Pheasants aren't native to the U.S..  We have probably raised over 5,000 over the years and released.  I didn't see the DNR come forward and help pay for the birds or feed.
 
The first thing is to change the language. They are farmed cervids, not wildlife!! Wildlife agencies do not have vets, are not experts in diseases and know nothing about raising deer! They may think they know about deer, but they don't!
 
Exactly correct Wild Rivers , I see it several states I work in. And yes the language needs to be changed. Ive got a plan brewing!!