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Deer pens

Joined Jun 2014
45 Posts | 0+
Jefferson, NY
I'm in the process of clearing lanes for fence, but i was wondering because my land is all woods is that going to be a problem as far as the deer or will i just have to supplement more feed? Any info is greatly appreciated, Thanks
 
A whitetail will grow a good set of antlers in many environments. I believe if one can create an environment with the least stress they will not just get good horns, they will get their bucks best horns. One type of stress a whitetail does face inside the pen is nutritional stress. God made the whitetail to be very adaptable but when we force them to adapt with our fences I believe it is very easy to create an element of stress that will keep a buck from the full potential his genetics allow. Look around at the mule deer they are commonly wider and longer tined than the whitetail. They live in wide open terrain that is usually mostly grasslands. Then look at the Coues whitetail deer found in heavily wooded environments with its horn much smaller than the common whitetail. My goal would be to have both pasture and mature woods if possible. I see you are from New York so I would clear some southern facing hillsides. If possible I would clear the doe fawning pens of all but a few trees. Sunlight is very helpful in cleansing pens of harmful bacterias. I would leave most of the trees in the buck pens. They will kill a lot of the trees. I would provide them openings to lay in the sun and small food plots. I have seen Russ Bellar buy bucks many times from small pens where the bucks were in grass only. Then once at his farm they made enormous jumps in antler. The secret pill was the change in environmental stress. Russ has large pens with both pasture and mature shade trees where the bucks can choose where they want to lay based on the weather. Bucks will grow much better typical antlers where they have the natural fiber from browsing on tree buds in forested pens all in my opinion.

Hope this is helpful.
 
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A whitetail will grow a good set of antlers in many environments. I believe if one can create an environment with the least stress they will not just get good horns, they will get their bucks best horns. One type of stress a whitetail does face inside the pen is nutritional stress. God made the whitetail to be very adaptable but when we force them to adapt with our fences I believe it is very easy to create an element of stress that will keep a buck from the full potential his genetics allow. Look around at the mule deer they are commonly wider and longer tined than the whitetail. They live in wide open terrain that is usually mostly grasslands. Then look at the Coues whitetail deer found in heavily wooded environments with its horn much smaller than the common whitetail. My goal would be to have both pasture and mature woods if possible. I see you are from New York so I would clear some southern facing hillsides. If possible I would clear the doe fawning pens of all but a few trees. Sunlight is very helpful in cleansing pens of harmful bacterias. I would leave most of the trees in the buck pens. They will kill a lot of the trees. I would provide them openings to lay in the sun and small food plots. I have seen Russ Bellar buy bucks many times from small pens where the bucks were in grass only. Then once at his farm they made enormous jumps in antler. The secret pill was the change in environmental stress. Russ has large pens with both pasture and mature shade trees where the bucks can choose where they want to lay based on the weather. Bucks will grow much better typical antlers where they have the natural fiber from browsing on tree buds in forested pens all in my opinion.

Hope this is helpful.




 


 


I agree 100%  All my buck pens are 50-50  and its working!


 


Scott Neeb


www.chanllowfarms.com
 
HI Bell and Neeby,


That was very helpful, thanks so much for the info. I really appreciate it. Thanks again.
 
Welcome to the forums speeny !!  I feel high protein plants like clover and alfalfa really help in producing quality deer! Good Luck!


 


 


Scott Neeb


www,chanllowfarms.com
 
Neeb, What size are your buck pens? Also i see you are not to far down in PA. Wondering if sometime i could visit?


Thanks Scott
 
My buck pens are 1+ acre each, I don't crowd  my bucks  , no more then 5 per pen , Im located north of allentown, I love visitors call me anytime Im usually around, Heath Walk was here just last week, Its never too early In the year for visits! Lol Thanks


 


Scott Neeb


www.chanllowfarms.com


1-570-386-2468
 
Neeby,
Thanks for allowing to come visit. Caveman,Freak, and Big Jigalow are very nice bucks!!!!
 
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Neeby,

Thanks for allowing to come visit. Caveman,Freak, and Big Jigalow are very nice bucks!!!!




 


Glad you liked the bucks!!!! Good to see you!! good luck with your new  pens!!


 


 


Scott Neeb


www.chanllowfarms.com