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Fawn Diarreah

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Hollowroad Whitetails

Joined May 2010
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Hazleton, PA
Hello everyone:



I have two fawns with diarreah that I simply cannot get under control. My most recent attempt was with a non medicated scour product made for calves from Tractor Supply. It is a four day treatment with the first two days nothing but the product (which is essentially electrolytes. I kept dirt, ground up fee, straight feed and fresh grass and clover in the pen during this period. Almost immediately, really bad diarreah solidified into large clumps, not little pellets but big clumps. In my book this was a huge success. However, for days 3-4 you must mix the product with milk or milk replacer. As soon as I did this the diarreah came back worse than ever. I used straight red cap with no replacer added in order to keep it simple. I previously had the stools tested for coccidia, with negative results. Previously I was feeding a red cap/kid replacer solution and added pumpkin and yogurt to try to control the diarreah. Something doesnt seem right here and I was hoping somone can give some advice. I am bringing my vet out to see but not sure if she will know what to do. Anyone have any thoughts on a course of action I can take? Change milk, feed straight replacer?



Please let me know. Thank you for your help.
 
are they in a pen that is kept mowed with the clover. Fresh young clover ( like that which grows right after a mow) is too lush for little ruminants stomachs. If consumed too much before they get used to it , it can cause a frothy bloat which is very bad. Try offering an dry hay as well and see if that helps. you can continue to give pumpkin as well. I had the same problem due to clover in pen and I mixed a half can of pumpkin per gal of red cap and went through 3 gallons before her stomach started building the bacteria to break down the lush clover in my bottle babys pen
 
Try LS 50 or Neomycin (sp?). It is the only 2 things I use for loose fawns. I keep it on hand at all times. Both are an antibacterial and seems to get rid of the bugs that are giving them tummy aches. 1/8 teaspoon 2x per day (8 hours apart) for 2-3 days is all it takes for the LS 50....firms them right up. 3cc (2x per day) of Neomycin for a couple of days also works very well.....Neomycin is good for ecoli. Just had 2 buck fawns that were VERY watery loose ecoli. It took a week, but both cleared up with the Neomycin. If any fawn is loose (I have 50 on the bottle this year)...they get one day of LS 50 treatment and they are good to go.
 
Daniel

We had a fawn that we could not straighten out either, And then I starting thinking about all the comments that are always made about changing there diet in the slightest way will cause diarreah. So just for the heck of it we went back to the red cap with replacer and left her on just that and in about 5 days she straightened out. Ours was taking a full bottle at every feeding, playing and just acting normal. I think I did more to her by constantly messing with what she was eating. so we just went with one thing and it straightened out.
 
Susan, do you mix the Neomycin right into their formula or do you administer a different way. Thanks to everyone for the comments. Very helpful.
 
Majestic Whitetails said:
Daniel

We had a fawn that we could not straighten out either, And then I starting thinking about all the comments that are always made about changing there diet in the slightest way will cause diarreah. So just for the heck of it we went back to the red cap with replacer and left her on just that and in about 5 days she straightened out. Ours was taking a full bottle at every feeding, playing and just acting normal. I think I did more to her by constantly messing with what she was eating. so we just went with one thing and it straightened out.
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This is Key! I see this all the time with my baby goats and and now with my baby deer. Different bacteria develop to to breakd down different foods if you change it on them, they the food doesnt get broken down quicly enough and the food will sour and either cause excessive gas and bloat or the runs. Either one are not good. When ever I transfer my babies from my nursery pen to my big pen I always make sure they are full all they want on milk prior and also increase my feeding for a few days to keep them kind of full so they only nibble on the new food to allow there stomachs to adjust before they start gobbling it down. Seems to work really well that way.
 
You can either mix the LS 50 (powder form) in the formula or I have mixed in a little bit of water and put down their throat with a syringe. Same with Neomycin (liquid form).



Baytril is also a great way to get bad bateria out of a fawns system. .25cc 2x per day....but I don't like to give any more shots to fawns than I have to. Sometimes I will give to boost the antibacterial action. I did use baytril along with the neomycin for the 2 buck fawns that had bad ecoli. Both took a week or more to get back to normal, but both have been out in the pen for quite awhile and are eating good now.



I swear by LS 50 and neomycin....it works.
 
Make sure you use the plain yogurt when you give it to the fawns.We tried the cherry or strawberry kind and it made them worse.I dont know if its the weather or what but this is our worst year with loose fawns.I tried it all and most times nothing would do a total clear up untill i put the penicillin right down the throat.Killed all the bacteria,good and bad then started them all over from scratch with low amounts of milk with probotics in to get their good bacteria going again and it worked like a charm everytime!!!
 
Here is an idea that dosent require any meds. when i get a fawn with very watery stool, I simply clean them out. say he is eating 10 ounces at the time he gets diarreah. What i would do at the next feeding is give him 2 ounces milk, and mix 8 ounces of water into the bottle, that way there is just enough of a milk taste to get them to drink. Do this for a whole day, then the next day go to 4 ounces of milk mixed with water, then by day 3 they should be alot better, you can start adding more milk at each feeding, but take it slow, I have found that sometimes they start doing better in as little as one or two watered down feedings, but if you put them on all milk too soon they will get a reoccurance, be patient with this idea, its worth a shot. it has been a huge success for me.
 
I have had good luck with 7% iodine orally. We give 1CC in first bottle of 8oz of milk. We then give 1/2cc of iodine in the next bottle. We repeat the 1/2cc as needed in the next 2 bottles. It usually works within 3 bottles. Rick
 
Susan, is the LS 50 the stuff that they say is only for use with chickens?? Or am I really confused?



Sandy Malone

Prime Whitetails

Rush, NY
 
What I have used is Sulmet and LA 200. Give orally 1cc of Sulmet and 2cc sub q of LA200. Also orally you can give some probiotics, it won't hurt anything.



This has usally worked within about 12 hours.
 

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