Hello, can someone give me advice how to stop owls or hawks from killing fawns I know we cannot kill them for it is against wv state law, I thought about wire or scarecrow? has anyone else had this problem. If so what can we do. I am setting up a trail cam to try to see whats happening. they cannot get out and no sign of anything digging under. Its coming from the sky???? help please. thanks
hawk or owl eating fawns
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A wire cage bird trap does wonders. They see the birds flopping around in it and, well, I can't help it if they fly into it and break their neck.
I would say...night....owl would be the culprit.......day eagle or hawk......hope you can figure out the issue....SSS.....they it works sometimes........
wow, Im going to try to run wire above the pens in chris cross patten and I just thought
the poor fawns had to only worry about the cyotes no wonder they are disapearring in the wild.
the poor fawns had to only worry about the cyotes no wonder they are disapearring in the wild.
Reed Remraf - What evidence do you have and/or what makes you think it is an owl or hawk?
What is the condition of the fawns you are finding dead, ie the wounds that are present on them? How soon after these deaths are you finding them? What time of day, etc?
I don't ask these questions because I don't believe it can happen, but it would be unusual I would think.
I've witnessed eagles sweep my pen low before, as well as a huge hawk(Goshawk I think) once.
If it is an owl, it would apt be a Great Horned owl. Are they indigenous(sp) to your area?
What is the condition of the fawns you are finding dead, ie the wounds that are present on them? How soon after these deaths are you finding them? What time of day, etc?
I don't ask these questions because I don't believe it can happen, but it would be unusual I would think.
I've witnessed eagles sweep my pen low before, as well as a huge hawk(Goshawk I think) once.
If it is an owl, it would apt be a Great Horned owl. Are they indigenous(sp) to your area?
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Chillicothe, Missouri
If it is coming from the air...................Wire criss crossed above the pens,May proviide an excellent perch to really survey the pens!
I know in these parts a leg hold trap set ontop of a post is...................DEADLY!
I know in these parts a leg hold trap set ontop of a post is...................DEADLY!
Mark they are just dissappering no sign of death no tracks blood no holes in fence? others said sky? I am setting up trail cam just in case its a theif? we have moved all babys and mothers in same pen was told this may help 3 does still have not bare yet.also grasses are high but checked over and over they are masters at hiding will keep you all posted.
In our state its like a year manditory if you pull a feather off any wild bird .
Reed - If your grasses are high in these pens and you have a decent sized pen at all, I would suggest to you that those fawns might still be in there. Like you said...they are masters at hiding. I've walked by them numerous times when there wasn't ANY grass at all...about all they need is a stick to lay by and you can't see them, absolutely amazing how they blend in.
The fact that you have tall grass in your pen might also lessen the chance of birds being responsible. Just my opinion...but yes, please keep us posted.
The fact that you have tall grass in your pen might also lessen the chance of birds being responsible. Just my opinion...but yes, please keep us posted.
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Reed
I don't know the size of your pens, but we used to raise Quail. Cutler Supply sells flight pen netting. It is available in very large sizes and is very similar to a batting cage netting.
This stuff would be great for stretching over a fawn pen. It is available in up to 2" squares.
I don't know the size of your pens, but we used to raise Quail. Cutler Supply sells flight pen netting. It is available in very large sizes and is very similar to a batting cage netting.
This stuff would be great for stretching over a fawn pen. It is available in up to 2" squares.
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Majestic Whitetails said:
That is exactly what I sell and I am sure a lower cost as well and also what I would recommend if in fact that is the issue, thanks Joe, I used to sell the netting to Cutlers that they sold
No problem Henry.
I am sorry for mentioning Cutlers, I had no idea you sold it.
It is some great stuff.
I am sorry for mentioning Cutlers, I had no idea you sold it.
It is some great stuff.
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Joe, thats ok, most dont know I sell netting for birds as well as sporting fence. The net works great and I even sold it to someone once in California for vultures or some kind of big bird out there. Lots of sizes available and strengths as well.
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Yes, I sell heavy duty netting that would be placed over the top of the fawn area and attached to the fence at the top. It is very string and durable and would not beed to be up all the time unless a person would choose to leave it up.
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We put plastic barrels with the ends cut out of them in our pens around the edges. We stuff them with hay and the fawns like to lay in them. It keeps them warm, dry and out of sight of predators. If it is eagles or hawks, a lot of time you will find them dead and can see they've been pecked at. Either way, the fawn shelters are inexpensive and if they save even one fawn - worth it.
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