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Hey everyone I am new to the forum l am interested in the any advice I can get.



Let me start by saying I am new to deer farming I have a hunting preserve that is roughly 1300 acres under high fence in North Florida and has been under high fence for the last 15 years. I was heavily involved with QDMA practices and management and had what I would consider great success producing 140-160" deer with the same herd that was there when my family bought the place. Over the last five years we have seen a major decline in antler growth which I believe is due to line crossing and interbreeding.

I have built a 15 acre breeding pen on the property I guess my first question would be is it in my best interest to kill all the native herd before I release the new genetics. To keep the native heard from breeding down my good genetics. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
 
Willjw5 said:
Hey everyone I am new to the forum l am interested in the any advice I can get.



Let me start by saying I am new to deer farming I have a hunting preserve that is roughly 1300 acres under high fence in North Florida and has been under high fence for the last 15 years. I was heavily involved with QDMA practices and management and had what I would consider great success producing 140-160" deer with the same herd that was there when my family bought the place. Over the last five years we have seen a major decline in antler growth which I believe is due to line crossing and interbreeding.

I have built a 15 acre breeding pen on the property I guess my first question would be is it in my best interest to kill all the native herd before I release the new genetics. To keep the native heard from breeding down my good genetics. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,



I would wipe the old herd out for sure. I mean if you are going to spend the money anyway, Why not! If you are talking 140-160 as 3 year olds they would be gone for sure. Hunt the bucks you have this year and maybe throw in a doe for free. Thats a big area so i doubt you would get them all anyway.

As far as new blood. I would raise them in the breeding pen untill their ready to be turned out and then just leave the gate open so they can come and go fo a bit if they want but with a huge 1300 acres...They probably wont be back for awhile!! Good Luck!
 
Willjw5, I consult for 6 different preserves in Louisiana and Mississippi. These preserves range from 300 to 4000 acres. If you pm me I can share with you some of our strategies. Do not, I repeat do not depopulate your existing herd!
 
Four Seasons Whitetails said:
I would wipe the old herd out for sure. I mean if you are going to spend the money anyway, Why not! If you are talking 140-160 as 3 year olds they would be gone for sure. Hunt the bucks you have this year and maybe throw in a doe for free. Thats a big area so i doubt you would get them all anyway.

As far as new blood. I would raise them in the breeding pen untill their ready to be turned out and then just leave the gate open so they can come and go fo a bit if they want but with a huge 1300 acres...They probably wont be back for awhile!! Good Luck!



I was raising 140-160" Florida deer five years ago today the biggest deer we have seen this year is probably 115" which is why I would be concerned to turn my pen deer out to breed with my wild heard also I have found out how vital it is to have a good doe or does as the foundation of your heard which raises my question to should I wipe out the entire native herd but I appreciate your response.
 
Willjw5 said:
Hey everyone I am new to the forum l am interested in the any advice I can get.



Let me start by saying I am new to deer farming I have a hunting preserve that is roughly 1300 acres under high fence in North Florida and has been under high fence for the last 15 years. I was heavily involved with QDMA practices and management and had what I would consider great success producing 140-160" deer with the same herd that was there when my family bought the place. Over the last five years we have seen a major decline in antler growth which I believe is due to line crossing and interbreeding.

I have built a 15 acre breeding pen on the property I guess my first question would be is it in my best interest to kill all the native herd before I release the new genetics. To keep the native heard from breeding down my good genetics. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,



Genetics are an amazing thing! Feed, habitat, age... all mean very little unless you have the right genetics. Good luck!
 
Please give me a call @ 352-266-4270 tomorrow. I'm located in florida and have completed all your trying to do.

Thank you

Steve Munz

Galaxy Whitetail Solutions
 
I would look at nutrition first before I would wipe them out. I see many deer that people post pics of and don't score what you think they would for the age and the genetics behind them, I can only assume that it is mgmt.
 
Willjw5 said:
I was raising 140-160" Florida deer five years ago today the biggest deer we have seen this year is probably 115" which is why I would be concerned to turn my pen deer out to breed with my wild heard also I have found out how vital it is to have a good doe or does as the foundation of your heard which raises my question to should I wipe out the entire native herd but I appreciate your response.



I know a Florida whitetail is not a northern whitetail but i think you could do better with better genitics if every other part of you magmt plan is in place.



Maybe some of the other Florida farms were going through the same thing and that would explain why 463 northern whitetails flew into Florida in the last 4 months. Only you know your situation on your farm and how they are growing but i can say that i did the same thing up here why i went from just raising deer to growing yearlings pushin 200 inches. I would tell you to be very careful of the ones in your state that would be in a big hurry to help. Do some research on closing of the border and who was in favor of closing that border and is also a deer farmer!
 
I would have to agree with Mike Kerry.



I would tell you to be very careful of the ones in your state that would be in a big hurry to help. Do some research on closing of the border and who was in favor of closing that border and is also a deer farmer!
 

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