This could be a stupid question is lumpy jaw contagious? This year I've had three fawns this year that have had it, that i lanced and cleaned out and all are still alive, one was pretty bad. Now I have a three year old doe that has a golf ball size lump on her jaw. I guess I'm going to dart her with draxxin first, before i put her down and do any lancing. Just wondering,
Is lumpy jaw contagious?
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I have had same deal. I do not think it is contagious from animal to animal but it is something that is in the soil. If it is present it can pop up in several deer. Some years it may be more present then others. I might be wrong just my thoughts
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It is in the soil and will pop up some times. They will be fine. You can treat them but I usually don't.
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Is it lumpy jaw or a quid? A quid will come back and is caused by a restriction of the blood vessels, which is caused by nematodes. You can treat to prevent it but once they have it we haven't been successful in reversing it. It will kill them eventually
If you do a 2:1 nuflor draxxin combination it will clear up in no time. we deal with it here alot
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The one that causes the puss pockets is caused by fuso bacterium. It is in the soil and an animal without any immunity to it will get the typical puss pockets. One must remember this can also happen inside the animal in lungs and other areas which is very serious.
The best protection is to give shots like Fuso Guard for cattle or the one made by Josh out of New Port Labs. Fuso Guard may or may not protect your animals as there are different strains of the bacterium. The vaccine made by Josh Newton was made from many deer with the problem so has a few strains of the fuso bacterium and has a better chance of protecting your animals.
As stated Nuflor and Draxxin are drugs of choice for treatment.
The best protection is to give shots like Fuso Guard for cattle or the one made by Josh out of New Port Labs. Fuso Guard may or may not protect your animals as there are different strains of the bacterium. The vaccine made by Josh Newton was made from many deer with the problem so has a few strains of the fuso bacterium and has a better chance of protecting your animals.
As stated Nuflor and Draxxin are drugs of choice for treatment.
Where can you buy the vaccine at? and if it is given to all the animals even the ones that havnt had it, will they be immune to it?
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Fuso guard at any farm store selling cattle products. The product I use is from Josh Newton 844-478-2870 www.cervidsolutions.com His vaccine covers two strains of deer Fuso.
It is given to all animals and most will then be immune to it. I say most because some might not take up the product to make themselves immuned because of their immune system failer at the time of giving the vaccine.
As far as the bacterium being contagious in a way it is. When the puss pocket breaks open the soil is saturated with the bacterium thus spreading the fuso bacterium more in the soil which will enter another deer and cause the problem again.
It is given to all animals and most will then be immune to it. I say most because some might not take up the product to make themselves immuned because of their immune system failer at the time of giving the vaccine.
As far as the bacterium being contagious in a way it is. When the puss pocket breaks open the soil is saturated with the bacterium thus spreading the fuso bacterium more in the soil which will enter another deer and cause the problem again.
Once they have gotten it and lived threw it will they be less likely or more likely to get it again? Will they become somewhat immune to it
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This was my worst year ever with fuso in over 20 years of raising deer. I lost a total of 6 fawns out of 13 born. Of the 7 still alive 3 of those had fuso on their face but survived. I also have two adults struggling with fuso. All the adults were given the initial shot and the booster shot per instructions in the couple months just prior to fawning, and every fawn was given their first shots just after being born. I am very disappointed by the vaccine I used and will not be using it again. $1998.50 wasted in my opinion.
I am going back to the way I did things years ago.
I am going back to the way I did things years ago.
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I feel I should make some additional comments considering the response I am getting via emails, texts and PM's to my comments on here.
Yes this is in fact my worst year ever for fawn losses. My main issues have been fuso and ecoli. I was very excited to use the new products that I did. I felt it only made sense they would be better for whitetails. My results was horrible on my farm. I also feel it is over priced.
All that said I do not feel that using the product is a bad idea. If it is working for your farm that is excellent and I am happy for it. I do feel if it gave positive results to my farm I would use it despite the high cost. However when I consider the high cost, the poor market prices we have now, and the lack of effectiveness it had for my farm I don't see a reason for me to use it.
Maybe my farm just was better without a change in method. Maybe the strains are different from what is in the vaccine. Heck who knows, maybe my losses would have been higher if I hadn't used the stuff.
We all know that what works or doesn't work for one farm doesn't mean it will work or not work for the next farm. Everyone has to go the direction they see fit for their own business. I was only sharing my results. I hope this clears things up for folks.
Yes this is in fact my worst year ever for fawn losses. My main issues have been fuso and ecoli. I was very excited to use the new products that I did. I felt it only made sense they would be better for whitetails. My results was horrible on my farm. I also feel it is over priced.
All that said I do not feel that using the product is a bad idea. If it is working for your farm that is excellent and I am happy for it. I do feel if it gave positive results to my farm I would use it despite the high cost. However when I consider the high cost, the poor market prices we have now, and the lack of effectiveness it had for my farm I don't see a reason for me to use it.
Maybe my farm just was better without a change in method. Maybe the strains are different from what is in the vaccine. Heck who knows, maybe my losses would have been higher if I hadn't used the stuff.
We all know that what works or doesn't work for one farm doesn't mean it will work or not work for the next farm. Everyone has to go the direction they see fit for their own business. I was only sharing my results. I hope this clears things up for folks.