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John, I just think its the perception of our industry,that if people come to your farm to pet your deer or just visit and thier crashing off the fence and going nuts people will pass the word around that you are keeping these animals and they want out and to me that just gives the tree huggers ammo to say they are being mistreated. i just think its important even if we know the end result for these animals to do our best to place our captive herds in a positive light.