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Whats your thoughts on keeping 4 buck fawns in the same pen with 3 yearling bucks (with horns cut) pen is just a little over an acre ?
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Jonathan, was thinking of doing the same thing. Hopefully more buck fawns with only one or maybe 2 yearling bucks. I was not planning on cutting their antlers. What is your thoughts please?
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The fawns are very fast on their feet and will evade any aggression by the yearlings unless they are sick or in a very small pen or corral. Yearlings are much quicker than two year olds and mature bucks. They are often the ones who kill them. The yearling buck will t-bone a mature buck while he is engaged with another mature buck in a battle. Thier yearling racks are often very sharp and easily penetrate through the rib cage and puncture lungs.
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Thanks for the info.
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They will be fine. We've been putting our buck fawns in with 2 and 3 year old bucks for years. Never had an issue.
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Do you also keep your yearlings with hard horns in with your matures?
Our fawns do well in with matures in the winter but uncut yearlings have been a problem for us. My preference is to group them in separate pens by age. They seem to prefer to form bachelor groups with others mostly in their age group when given a choice in a large or free range environment following breeding season on through spring and summer. I think that we may be putting an element of stress on them by not letting them co-mingle the way that they are naturally inclined. I usually do not have enough pen space to facilitate this.
Do you also keep your yearlings with hard horns in with your matures?
Our fawns do well in with matures in the winter but uncut yearlings have been a problem for us. My preference is to group them in separate pens by age. They seem to prefer to form bachelor groups with others mostly in their age group when given a choice in a large or free range environment following breeding season on through spring and summer. I think that we may be putting an element of stress on them by not letting them co-mingle the way that they are naturally inclined. I usually do not have enough pen space to facilitate this.
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I agree they will be fine. The only issue I ever had was many years ago I added some buck fawns to a pen in winter and the snow was too deep for them to get away easy. One ended up with a broken back leg from it.
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Thanks Bell,Michael & Roger for your thoughts.
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Michael
Do you also keep your yearlings with hard horns in with your matures?
Our fawns do well in with matures in the winter but uncut yearlings have been a problem for us. My preference is to group them in separate pens by age. They seem to prefer to form bachelor groups with others mostly in their age group when given a choice in a large or free range environment following breeding season on through spring and summer. I think that we may be putting an element of stress on them by not letting them co-mingle the way that they are naturally inclined. I usually do not have enough pen space to facilitate this.
We cut all of the bucks yearlings included. The fawns eat right next to the yearlings and older bucks... so far over the past few years without incidence.
Michael
Do you also keep your yearlings with hard horns in with your matures?
Our fawns do well in with matures in the winter but uncut yearlings have been a problem for us. My preference is to group them in separate pens by age. They seem to prefer to form bachelor groups with others mostly in their age group when given a choice in a large or free range environment following breeding season on through spring and summer. I think that we may be putting an element of stress on them by not letting them co-mingle the way that they are naturally inclined. I usually do not have enough pen space to facilitate this.
We cut all of the bucks yearlings included. The fawns eat right next to the yearlings and older bucks... so far over the past few years without incidence.
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That makes sense if they are all cut. The past few years we have cut all of ours but a few of our breeders. I wonder if the pecking order in a pen of cut bucks doesn't revert back to a similar social status to that when all were in velvet. The biggest bodied animals generally rule the pen when my bucks are in velvet. The large bodied buck that is narrow with heavy mass and long clean tines will generally be the boss as soon as velvet is shed but if his horns and all the others are cut, I believe the larger bodied going back down to the smallest most of the time will again be the pecking order.
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I could be just my bad luck but last week I had a mature buck gore a buck fawn, tore him up pretty bad. Ended up putting him down
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I could be just my bad luck but last week I had a mature buck gore a buck fawn, tore him up pretty bad. Ended up putting him down. I will be splitting them up next year by age
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I could be just my bad luck but last week I had a mature buck gore a buck fawn, tore him up pretty bad. Ended up putting him down. I will be splitting them up next year by age
Better yet..Split them up AFTER you cut their racks off. Or Dont! But in these parts if a buck does not ride in a trailer in the fall he gets his rack cut. If stockers then keep them in your biggest pen so they can get away from each other! Sucks for your loss!
I could be just my bad luck but last week I had a mature buck gore a buck fawn, tore him up pretty bad. Ended up putting him down. I will be splitting them up next year by age
Better yet..Split them up AFTER you cut their racks off. Or Dont! But in these parts if a buck does not ride in a trailer in the fall he gets his rack cut. If stockers then keep them in your biggest pen so they can get away from each other! Sucks for your loss!
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we have ur bucks split...fawns in one pen..yrlings in one pen...2 and up in one pen. We leave all horns on
We group ours by age, even the ones without antlers cut. Our 2yr olds even do fine (usually) with each other when we don't cut antlers as long as they have been together all summer and established a pecking order before they strip velvet. The thing that we have found that DOES NOT WORK FOR US is mixing hard horned bucks, even if they are only apart for a day or two.
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any time a deer is removed or moved in they will re-establish pecking order.
I won't move my backup buck back to the herd until antlers are off
I won't move my backup buck back to the herd until antlers are off