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Still born fawns?

Joined Aug 2010
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Mercer, PA
This is only my third fawning season and had a first this morning. My Roben doe AI'd to Texas Tea had quads this morning. Found her laying next to a healthy buck fawn, with two doe fawns still partially in her (both back legs on each still in her up to their knees) that were dead. I then found a third doe fawn about 50 feet away also dead and looked like it born dead as well. I gently removed the two doe fawns from her. She seems to be walking a little sore and know doesn't seem to be caring for the buck fawn that is the only one alive. She seems to want to ignore it, so he might end up on a bottle. I did give him a little colostrum and stimulated him so just keeping an eye on this.



Question is how often do you see stillborn fawns? Any thoughts on the causes? Might have been a tough delivery for her could have been cause of this one. I also recently had a coon problem getting into this pen and eating feed, which I have taken care of, could they have passed something on to the deer causing abortions? Just wondering others thoughts, and I'm sure that this will not be my last lost fawns over time.



Thanks
 
Three year old but first time fawning. Is there a way to tell if she cleaned out? I know with cattle you can see some hanging if not clean, she has nothing I can see back there.

She is now licking and stimulating the fawn, but I have yet to see it nurse. She does seem to walk away when it gets back towards her teats.
 
JEJ7 - I agree totally with the advice Wayne gave and Dennis backed up - pull the fawn!!!

In 16 years I have had to pull fawns out of 3 does...not one of them took care of them. I don't know if all the trouble/drama that accompanied the process of pulling the fawns was the reason for the neglect of their fawns or what. But one thing is for sure, they did not take care of them...I would pull that fawn right away if it was me.

As far as being able to tell whether she is cleaned out or not...I don't know of any way other that burying your arm in her and grabbing anything not fastened down. Personally, because I've never seen one not clean out, I wouldn't worry about it.

Best of luck to you and that buck fawn!
 
Good news, this doe is mothering her fawn. I kept checking this combo (put them in a pen by themselves to make sure there was no confusion with other does/fawns so they would bond) every two hours. When I would check the fawn he Seemed to have a full belly I spite of the fact that I never would see him nurse, despite me getting him up every time and taking him to mom in hopes of seeing it. I tried to give him milk every so offer but never seemed hungry or interested. Well, finally at 3am I got him up and he nursed and she stimulated him! So I feel that he had been feeding but just not when I could see. I'm still keeping them isolated for couple days and watching carefully, but think all is good!
 
That's great Jens, cause if you're like me, I never really cared for the bottle feeding thing.

I think I already know the answer, but I want to ask and know for sure for my own learning - Had this doe already cleaned the buck fawn prior to you finding them all?
 
Ditto Mark......bottle feeding is a pain.....especially when there is a mother doe that can do it way better than any person.........I will bottle feed a few every 2 to 3 years so there are a couple that I can pet as this does help keep the herd calm......but if your in the pens daily and around the deer they calm down really well! There are some of my deer that you can't tell which were bottle fed and which weren't.
 
Yes Mark. Still trying to guess what all happened. I think she had the buck fawn first and cleaned it, then had a still born doe fawn. She then moved about 50 feet away and had two more still born doe fawns I think simultaneously as they both were still partially in her, just bottom of back legs. I think this hard delivery of the last too could have been their demise as well as had her not feeling to good the remainder of the day. It really stinks losing three doe fawns to this breeding, but at least I have the buck fawn, currently.