The mentality we are up against

Maybe some have already seen this , Just had it emailed to me.



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http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/hunting/2010/10/hunter-texas-game-ranch-bags-possible-world-record-elk?cmpid=enews100710

Pretty tough crowd. The tone of many suggests they are not persuadable. People usually don't respond to an article like this if it is not striking a nerve in some way. You don't seem to hear from many middle-of-the-roaders b/c they are not emotionally charged as some can be.

I think an asterik (sp) should be by the record. Penned raised is different than unpenned. However, the mentality of those against penned hunts imagine the pen as small as they can to help fuel the insults and charged retorts of stacking the deck.

This is a big uphill battle.

By reading there negative posts it reminds me of the kids back in high school... myself included ... that were jealous of the kid with the best car!! A strong case of envy and jealousy which is a shame!! Instead of congratulations.... they talk ****.... the man shot a world record elk, thats awesome!!! I bet if those sore losers were offered a free hunt they would jump all over it!! Just a shame!



Scott Neeb

Chanlow Farms

A world record high fence Elk and a world record wild Elk are two different things. One is bought and paid for wich is fine. The other is not and it takes a lot more skill to get. That is why they have two different record classes one for wild and one for captive or high fence. Don't see what the big uproar is.

Virgil the general public has no idea there is a seperate categories in SCI for high fence animals. If the article had been titled that way you probably wouldn't have seen as many negative responses. Its a tough road.

It would be an arguable case IF an animal was trapped from the "wild" and placed in a high fenced area that didn't have enough sanctuary and escape cover for that animal to draw from it's instincts to stay alive AND the animal was given ample time to familiarize itself with it's new environment. These remarks are certainly not ambiguous, WHOEVER reads this can't twist my words, mis-interpret what is said, or cross pattern my thoughts. The one argument would be that John Q. Public had been robbed of the opportunity to harvest same animal from whence it came. This includes intent for propagation from whence the animal came...John Q. would be robbed of the possible genetic affluance of the relocated animal if it was "trophy" class. My argument for animals harvested from "high fenced" areas draws from different criteria, some of which is the case from a trapped/relocated animal. One point we high fence owners must hold fast to is OPPORTUNITY. The animals we have behind high fence have not been robbed from public land, nor the opportunity to harvest it there. Our management practices are purposed and as far as I know...are not state or federally funded. As far as economics, the earth is still 'round'. Here in Texas (and speaking from experience) every ranch, every region has supply and demand. Prices for hunts reflect calibre of animals AND opportunity. Texas has low fenced trophy hunts that out draw and out costs 90% of high fenced hunts with-in the state. Most guided and outfitted hunts are like this too. Let me be clear about this...money is the key factor regarding most things. Someone inform me here...does the state of Alaska, Montana, any state , province, or even country, pay your expenses to hunt on "public" lands therein. Can you submit for reimbursement your cost for the trip, room and board, etc. to any department of tourism, land bureau, or game agency? ISN'T it clear enough how things work and why people target other people? I have never seen an advertisement saying " Don't hunt high fence animals, you have better opportunties on public lands".

Ok, I dont have a dog in this fight but to a mere person like myself (to each his own, I have no vested interest) but what is the difference in a high fence hunt vs open land hunt and stocked pond vs river fishing?



NOTHING.........each serves their purpose and has a consumer base. I know very little but I do have an open mind. So why are they trying to end high fence hunts or shut down farmers?



To me (again just a minnow in the big pond) it seem logical if u dont like the way something is run, as a consumer, YOU DONT BUY IT.. Just because u dont like something does not give them the right to end it.......



sorry for butting in, just seems like a bunch of fools sitting in an office deciding who does or doesn't do what according to what they think is right or wrong........purely POLITICAL

Somewhere there is someone paying good money to harvest nice bucks and put trophies on the wall. As far as his buddies know those deer were hunted in his back yard putting him in elite company of finding big bucks in tough hunting areas. That is what some could be afraid of. Their trophy buck loses its shock factor when everyone (who can afford it) has one bigger hangin' on the wall.