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Deer Whisperer

Deer Whisperer

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Does any one out there have any albinos.Right now we have 5 . A 6 year

old buck,a one year old doe and 3 fawns born this year.2 bucks and 1 doe.I would like to sell the fawns but have no idea of value.Can anyone help.

These are not whitewhitetails but 100 percent albino.The moms are whitewhitetails and the dad is our 6 year old albino.
 
i have a two year old full albino doe and this year she had another albino doe fawn and a brown buck. you have pics of your buck?
 
The eye color is pink.The vet looked in the eye of my fawn last year and said it looked like a ball of water and all she could see is blood vessels. Albinos have no color to refract light so most have poor eyesight. Our buck was compleatly blind in his right eye but could see a bottle when I approched him on his left side. Pictures are on our web site www.DEERRANCH.com What about value,do they have any.
 
I would Ask...Please don't breed Deer that have Known Problems!!!

And Don't sell them to others To have Problems!!

BREED TO MAKE PIEDS AND WHITE STONG....NOT SICK!!
 
I do not breed sick deer.Most Albinos have poor eyesight,even human albinos have poor vision.
 
Deer whisperer,



I have seen the pictures posted on your website. You have a beautiful white fawn, but Sierra is not an albino. She is a seneca white whitetail. This means it is born cream colored and will turn white when it is 1 1/2 yrs old. True albinos are born snow white and have NO VISIBLE SPOTS !!



Many white deer will have blue, grey or even a clear eye that may resemble albinos, but they are not albinos. From the information posted, you are knowledgeable about the color change in the deer's coat as they age. I am guessing that all your white deer have made the same color changes from cream to white. This means that they are not albinos, simply seneca white whitetails.
 
I have a "White" Maxbo Grandson. He was born 5-5-10 and his buttons are looking awsome. My third biggest button buck. To my knowlage this is the only maxbo genetic buck in the industry. I know Maxbo Surpreme had a piebald full or womb sister at Amos Kauffman's, but i thinknthis is the only Maxbo genetic buuck in the indurtry. Any ideas of any other?
 
Drew, I have heard of other Maxbo piebalds popping up over the past couple of years. The problem with them is that all the ones I have heard of have had club feet and other deformities such as short legs or roman nose. If yours is healthy, you may have the only breed quality Maxbo piebald/white that I know of. Let me know if you ever draw semen, I would be interested. Give me a call, I would be interested in talking with you when you get a chance. 304-288-4090
 
wv deerman.

I have to disagree with you on Sierra.OUR VET CONFIRMED that she was a albino and her eyes are pink.I have been raising whitewhitetails for 20 years and have some born pure white and some lite tan until the winter coat comes in.Our first whitewhitetail buck came from Pa.so we bred him with lite colored brown does. That brown gene has followed for 20 years and we get brown fawns from 2 whitewhitetails sometimes.We have no connection with Senneca deer. Our whitewhitetails even produced a piebald even when they say you have to have a piebald to get one.
 
Out of 426 fawns born at our ranch we only had one pied. none of our whites or albinos had any trace of brown. The only brown we get is when they rub on cedar trees to remove the velvet.
 
They are just white whitetails, they ARE NOT ALBINOS !! Being born with a cream color means it has pigment...making it a white deer NOT AN ALBINO. Your deer producing brown fawns and even a piebald only confirms what I am saying, these deer have pigmentation in their genetics. I have been raising piebalds and whites for 10 years. There are several variations of these colors and genetics. A solid white deer is not necessarily an albino, it can be just a white deer....which is what you have. Some are born snow white and some are born cream color, but again...THEY ARE NOT ALBINOS !!



Personally, I don't care what you want to call them. I just don't want you to mislead people or even think you have something rare and valuable. You have beautiful white whitetails.
 
WVDEERMAN. If you are saying we have just white deer ,how come I have 4 with brown eyes and 5 white deer with pink eyes. All my whitewhitetails in 20 years of breeding always had brown eyes. The vet looked into the eyes of my albinos and said it looked like a ball of water with only blood vessels showing. They have no color to refract light making it harder for them to see.
 
The eyes not having color isn't the only factor that can decide if they are albinos. They must be born solid white not cream. As I have said in previous posts, a white deer can have brown, blue or CLEAR eyes. It sounds that maybe your deer have clear eyes. I have even seen some with chrome colored eyes. I had one before that had swirled, green blue eyes. I also had a piebald doe that had emerald green eyes. There are various eye colorations that occur in white and piebald whitetails. BUT, the main factor is that an albino deer will be born snow white, not cream color and then change. If it has a color gene to be cream, then it isn't albino.



I would say that there are only a handful of people around the country that have more information about whites, piebalds and albinos than I do. I have done a lot of research over the years as well as hands on study and breeding for 10 years. I still have a long way to go and more to learn, but that is the fun part of deer farming.



Good Luck to you !!
 
Thanks for all the info Jack.This year the albinos born were pure white.Sierra last year had the tan color so I figured it came from the brown doe I used with my whitewhitetail buck from Pa. because I get brown fawns from my buck and doe whitewhitetails sometimes.
 
I don't think your fully understanding what I am saying. You have white whitetails. They can produce brown fawns as well as cream (white) fawns. They don't produce just white fawns. You could breed your white does to brown bucks and get brown or white fawns. You could also breed your white does to white bucks and still get brown or white fawns, but your chances or getting white fawns is increased. However, you won't get white fawns every time. Your white deer have a dominant gene for having very light blue or clear eyes. But, they are not albinos. You don't have the gene for albinos, you only have the gene for white whitetails.
 
so is this fawn an albino then? the first one is her mother. powder the doe was born from two brown deer with no color in her pedigree.
 

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