Here is a picture of EL Johnny on 06-22-09, along with his 3 year old photo (193 3/8" @ 3 - perfect 6X6 Typical), for reference. He is one of the last ones to start growing out at our place, but then he will continue to pour it on strong right up until the very end. He is much heavier on mass, appears to be slightly wider, and up to this point, he is keeping that beautiful typical frame. Call Elam Lapp @ 717-692-4759 for more information.