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3rd fawn with infected gums, loss of lower teeth, death

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cloverhays

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I have been a rehabber in GA for 8 years. I have great success with injured and orphaned White Tail. Two years ago, most rehabbers were met with a plight that killed 90 percent of our fawns. In this, I only lost 1 out of 9. This year, however, I am in the middle of something no one can figure out. A month ago I received a fawn that was skinny, but had a great appetite and did well right off the bat. Two weeks later, however, his lower gums became highly infected, he lost his teeth, lost weight and died. The lower lip became detached from the gums. I put him on Cephalex, used a peroxide solution, iodine swabs, put him back on a bowl of milk for calories. The next day, another became ill. I sent her to UGA Vet School for help. She died, they can't figure it out. Yesterday, yet another started the same thing. We are absolutely flummoxed. They are not eating anything new, nothing new has been introduced, it looks bacterial or even environmental, but who knows? The first sick one could have brought something in a month ago but no vets have seen it before nor UGA. My larger bucks are close to release and are doing great, but the smaller late babies are dropping like flies. If anyone has ever seen this before, please direct me! Thanks!

Elexis Hays

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geez i am no expert at all, but it seems to me to be something bacterial? that would kill me to lose them and not know why or how to prevent it next time....maybe someone here has some ideas..if u do find out please be sure to post the results. good luck.
 
necro-bassilosis..... lump jaw... foot rot.... also effects fawns when they are losing their milk teeth they get the infection into the jaw bone and it is very hard to cure as it moves quickly through the blood stream and their whole system can become sceptic and they die quickly as it attaches to any and all organs,



if you can give all your fawns a shot of Draxxin of if not possible start putting tetracyciline pellets in their feed to give them a low dose which is usually enough to prevent it when they come in contact with the bacteria
 
I'm with Curtis on this one. Sounds like a fuso bacterium to me. We treat with Draxxin and also give a shot of Fuso-Guard to all fawns to try to immune them from it. We retreat in three to four weeks both products.
 
Banamine would be much more appropriate as a preventative. Banamine has the capability to help protect the brain liner.
 
Breath smell like decomposition?



Pseudomonas bacteria. Lives in water, and is extremely hard to get rid of. Does will lay in moist ground and have it on their teats, then the fawn nurses and gets it, or the doe licks/cleans herself and then drinks out of the trough.....you get the picture.



We have seen it this year, too. Clindamycin, Tetradure and Tribrissen saved one for us, but give LOTS of antacids while treating. Acidosis is eminent with so many and such large doses of antibiotics.



Good luck, this is a very difficult bug to get under control.
 
Sounds like what we call Trench Mouth. Very treatable if you can catch it early enough. Sodium Iodide IV injection, clean out dead tissue with tweezers and a childs toothbrush dipped in Chlorohexadine solution, topical treatment with LA 200 and a shot of LA 200, clean daily with Chlorahexadine solution. The fawn needs to be "knocked out" with a telazol and sterile water mix at 1/10 cc per ten pounds body weight. You will have to wear rubber gloves as it can be contagious to humans. Very contagious to other fawns through saliva. Make sure fawn is in a soft environment as they come out of the Telazol very uncordinated. For me the hardest part is getting the IV inection which I do first when they are out since you have about 10 good minutes to work with. Having someone helping and holding a flashlight is very useful. You can give them every injection possible and it will not work as good as this. They will go from not eating good because their mouth hurts to taking bottles the next day.
 
I think soil is the problem, I had to treat like 12 fawns within a week or two ..that had lump jaw or a hard layer on thier bottom jaw bone...and some had puss on thier bottom teeth and teeth were all loose and falling too. I darted them with 1cc of baytril on one side and 1/2 cc of draxin on the other side...every three days,twice . The reason for darting with Meds,was because they were too small to dart to put to sleep ..Why put them to sleep when you can't do anything about it? I relocated them to the next door pen,all I did was open the fence underneath the H pipe of the next door pen and all went next door..they seem fine now. But yes it is the soil.....trench it or turn the soil over..... now I'm using that pen for A.I only . That pen won't harm adult deer , but will kill your fawn herd. Goodluck !!!! Marco
 

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