What is every one getting or giving on average for shooter bucks they are selling. Also how much are preserve owners selling their hunts for. Seems to me no one wants to pay crap for shooters here in PA but when I look at web sights for the preserves prices are the same.
Joined Apr 2009
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Negley, Ohio
Wouldn't know....Seems like the preserves here in Ohio are not buying...And from what I have heard, the deer they are buying they are stealing at the prices they are paying.
I don't know if this is completely true but I heard they were paying $750 for a 150-160 buck.
I have no testing status, so I am having a heck of a time selling so that I can start over with a tested herd....My fault should have done it right 8 years ago.
All I can do is learn from my mistakes !
I don't know if this is completely true but I heard they were paying $750 for a 150-160 buck.
I have no testing status, so I am having a heck of a time selling so that I can start over with a tested herd....My fault should have done it right 8 years ago.
All I can do is learn from my mistakes !
I dont have any to sell but one man I know has 4 to sell not big 130's up to 150's was offered 300 each for them. Know of a nice looking 200+ (214)typical that was sold for 4500, wish I had known he was being sold I would have gave that and used him as a breeder this year.
Yep folks and its only going to get worse before it gets better we need to focus on our future and how we can increase the demand for the product we are producing.....only one answer....more hunters!!! Sign the petition on the other thread and join Nadefa!!!!
like in the earlier post its true seems to be a buyers market some guys will still get good money for there deer while others wont and it seems like the guys that are paying decent money want to pay as they get killed with no strings attatched if they get killed prior to the deer being killed like said on another tread for the guys who its still taking 3 to 4 years to grow a 140 youll never get your money back out of the deer so take advantage and buy better genetics faster maturing its seems like the breeding stock prices are off as well unless like the old saying goes you can only get out of it what its worth and maybe thats all alot of these deer are worth at the auctions and with more and more deer farms showing up true prices are finally being exposed
There is no big secret to how it all works...we are know different than any other market out there......supply and demand without the demand there is no need to supply.........we need to drive the demand up!!! we must!!
Only offers we have had is $2000 for 205"+ bucks if they have a good look to them. Nothing else is moving.
Joined May 2009
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Tuscaloosa, Alabama
It wrong but I have been told that if you don't sell for these bargin basement prices they will find someone that has too. It gets worse too as some of the preserves have effidently agreed not to bid against each other. Makes it kind of hard to get behind promoting their preserves with our hard earned money. Iv'e noticed that their hunt prices aren't suffering too the same degree as ours. Rick
In defense of the preserves they have alot of overhead costs and if hunt bookings are off 50% like I hear they are, then I can understand why they can't lowered their prices. They need every cent to stay open. I understand that.
However, I won't sell for those prices, so I have been butchering. If nothing else I'll have alot of venison and some nice 180-250 class heads for the living room.
However, I won't sell for those prices, so I have been butchering. If nothing else I'll have alot of venison and some nice 180-250 class heads for the living room.
Texas market is around 60% of the average hunt price for that animal. I've bought deer this year for 160s-180s for $1500 and 130s-mid 140s for $800 but those are good finds.
I fully understand that some of their cost have gone up and have not begrudged then makeing 55 or 60 percent of the hunts cost. However all I'm saying is that they aren't selling a 160 class deer hunt for $1200 so why do they offer us 350 or maybe 500 for a 160 class deer? It's like I said its because they know that somebody will have to sell and they kind make alittle (or alot) extra on that hunt at our expense. Rick
Buckskin I hear your frustration believe me......I frustated as all heck too!! However, they (preserve owners) know that it is a buyers market right now and know they can make a larger profit for their hunts by buying bucks a bargian prices.....it this thier fault? No.....they are struggling too and their bookings are down so if they can make more dollars per hunt then this will help them stay a float.....everyone is doing what they have too to survive the bad economy as well as the flooded market.......I am sorry i know some out there disagree with my feelings on a flooded market but i just don't understand if you re involved in the industry to any extent how you could not see there is an over abundance of whitetails at the moment. I am dine trying to point fingers folks........turn the finger right back at yourself because if you are a part of this industry then you sre s psrt of the industry failing.....we NEED to ban together and do what is needed to get our sales back up to the level that they once were and actually get them much higher!!
Joined May 2009
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Tuscaloosa, Alabama
That's true and also the cost or raising the deer have gone up. Things need to change soon or nobody will be left in business. Doesn't matter how much money you got. If you keep losing every year, eventually you will go Broke!
I don't farm or have a preserve, but I film in them alot and talk to the preserves at shows all the time. The way I see it is. a lot of them have started to grow there own, so they don't need to buy from a farm. Or if they buy deer as needed, they don't have the overhead on that deer. 180"+ is what the majority of the hunts are. Like anything else in a bad economy the people with money can spend it where the ones hurting are saving. It sounds like the market is flooded with "shooters", and I don't see a way your going to change prices. Just like anything, the supplier (farmer) doesn't get rich its the seller who does.
gee, thanks guys ,what a time to get in to this busis, BUT i love white-tailes , i dont make a liven out of it ,, but i would almost go as far as say its a sickness the them ,, i love my white tails , dont even care much to hunt them any more, boy if my wife ever read this ???
As long as they can buy the deer cheap they will. Why would a preserve pay us what they are worth if we are willing to sell them for way less. Or are they even worth what we think they are, a lot of big deer out there. All I know is feed is high, cant give does away (unless high quality breeders) shooters are cheap. A lot of $$$ out and not much coming back. But hey it's still fun to raise deer.
I see nobody wants to post how much they are willing to pay for shooters. Must mean some feel guilty for selling deer to new guys and then not giving them crap for the shooters they produce. If all who raised shooters would hold fast to their prices then the preserves would have no choice but to pay a fair price. The longer you hold on to your deer the more they are worth. Come December preserves are in need of good deer and they are hard to come by. So if your not getting fair prices just hang on good things come to those who wait.
Joined Apr 2009
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Clinton, PA
I just sold my first shooter and I got what I thought was a good price. He is an est. 180s and I got $3600. I thought I did pretty good. But I will tell you this if you think ppl are going to be beating down your door to get your bucks you got another thing coming. I did alot of calling, emailling, advertising, and telling anyone and everyone that would give me a second that I had a buck to sell.
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