Can does be in heat 24hrs after pulling CDR's

We pulled CDR's yesterday at 6am and today since 8am one of the does has been pacing the fence with a buck on the other side following her every step. She will let him sniff on her thru the fence and stand there as hes trying to figure out how to mount her. should I be wooried about it or is this normal.

I went out to check on this doe who is a bottle fed but usually will only let me touch her for a brief second. Well she let me run my hand all the way down her back and she didnt move. So I decided to move her to a pen with a buck, well I had to push her most of the way. I guess this would be standing heat.

I have seen does in heat 36 to 40 hours after cidr removal. I'm sure there are animals which could come in heat earlier than that if conditions were right. Most ( 90% +) does will be in heat 50 to 60 hours after cidr removal and be ready for AI at that time. I'm sure this cidr timing is not 100% but it is as close as we can get right now.

In the pen that I moved her to lived a buck named Nite Hawk, he was laying in the back corner about sixty yards away from the gate not kowing that he was about to be suduced by a buetiful young doe. She took her time slowly moving her way closer to him trying to entice him. He watched her closely wondering if a fine doe like her could ever find interest in a young unknown buck like him. When she knew that she had his eyes glued to her every move she turned away trying not to reveal that she was needing him so badly. When she turned away she gazed back over her shoulder with love in her eyes at Nite Hawk.This was the signal that he was waiting for and rose from his bed. She didnt move an inch as he quickly went to her. He took in her womanly aroma and lavished her with his tongue, He stroked her sides with the side of his face. Then he rose up Ok this was kind of fun to start out with but now its starting to become to much I think you all can figure out how it finished.



So the question is how can a doe be in standing heat 28 hrs after pulling CDR's?

Jack do you know if this would be the same for this doe next year or not.

I don't think it would be the same next year. My question would be was the cidr tip sticking out of the doe or was it deep enough in the ****** so that the product on the tip could ****** the heat cycle?



One of the many reasons the producer should be able to AI his own deer. It really is a very easy task.

[quote name='Jack']. My question would be was the cidr tip sticking out of the doe or was it deep enough in the ****** so that the product on the tip could ****** the heat cycle?



If that is true, it could be the reason. I did notice that when this doe would urinate I could see the tip of the CIDR.

I thought that if the CIDR was in her, the body would absorb the drug and keep her from going into heat.

The cidr problem might have been a factor. If she didn't absorb enough progesterone it may not have ******** her heat cycle. Only the solid end of the cidr is impregnated with progesterone. Also a factor might be was the cidr impregnated with enough progesterone? Both could be a problem. This is why I don't think she will do this next year. But that is just my opinion.

We have inserted several does with CIDRs even though they were going to be live bred for the last couple years. This, in order to synchronize them for having fawns with the AI does....since I bottle feed most of the doe fawns. We have also noticed does getting bred the next day after pulling CIDRs. We had 18 live bred does last year with CIDRs and they all fawned when they should have this spring. We saw most get bred the next day after pulling CIDRs. This is very interesting as we were quite amazed that they would be in heat enough to breed.

ER Whitetails said:

In the pen that I moved her to lived a buck named Nite Hawk, he was laying in the back corner about sixty yards away from the gate not kowing that he was about to be suduced by a buetiful young doe. She took her time slowly moving her way closer to him trying to entice him. He watched her closely wondering if a fine doe like her could ever find interest in a young unknown buck like him. When she knew that she had his eyes glued to her every move she turned away trying not to reveal that she was needing him so badly. When she turned away she gazed back over her shoulder with love in her eyes at Nite Hawk.This was the signal that he was waiting for and rose from his bed. She didnt move an inch as he quickly went to her. He took in her womanly aroma and lavished her with his tongue, He stroked her sides with the side of his face. Then he rose up Ok this was kind of fun to start out with but now its starting to become to much I think you all can figure out how it finished.



So the question is how can a doe be in standing heat 28 hrs after pulling CDR's?

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Was wondering: what is this site rated??

Yeah phillip.....I forgot I was on the deer forums for a minute there....geez!!!LOL

We had 4 live bred does with CIDRs this year and they all got bred the day after pulling the CIDR again. Has anyone else seen this?

I was trying to just stay out of this discussion because I don't say I am 100% correct on my thoughts, but here it is anyway.

If you cervically A/I breed a doe the semen is placed somewhat further into the doe than if the buck jumps her. So the semen has a shorter path to travel. Therefore when A/I breeding the doe you can wait a little longer before putting the semen in her. That is one part of my thought.

The other part of my thought (and maybe more the case) is that just because she stood and he jumped her doesn't mean that the shot of semen he deposited actually got the job done. A doe will get jumped several times during standing heat. It could be that the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th time was the shot that actually got to the egg at the right time. I personally don't think that standing heat means for sure that the egg is in place and completely ready for the semen.

If the doe getting jumped the day after pulling the CIDR meant she was bred at that point then when we A/I say for instance at 58 hours it would be too late and they wouldn't take. But I happen to know this is not the case since I also have had does standing at the fence and even actually backed tight against the fence wanting the buck on the other side to jump her through the fence because she was sooooo ready to stand for him. But we A/I'ed her on the normal schedule and she took so waiting didn't mean we were too late.



Just adding to the talk.

Ive talked to quite a few guys about this the last few days and what your thinking goes right in line with what a few of them say.