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Debate Over High Fence Hunting

I don't know why Versus would want to stir the pot like this. I can't stand in fighting amongst hunters! There is nothing worse for sport thant the high fence debate.
 
Steve, I would like to ask everybody who opposes high fence hunting a few simple questions. Have they ever fished a farm pond, lake impoundment or any man made lake of any size (All man made lakes were stocked with hatchery fish), hunted over bait, a food plot in the middle of hundreds of acres, or on a river island. There is nothing free ranging about any of that. High fence hunting is nothing more than another opportunity to hunt. Is it the same as hunting wild deer; no, but if you don't like it change the channel. Don't have them stop broadcasting television. As the saying goes you can't fix STUPID. This country has spent billions of dollars on finding cures for all types of diseases why can't we find a cure for stupid people.:mad:
 
Paul, I can't think of a better place for you to be from.... Defiance, MO



But stop beating around the bush and tell us what you really think.



The cure for stupid is No seatbelts, No Helmets and skateboards with big hills

Too much government regulation prevents culling of the gene pool
 
If you read their posts most of the dumb butts...Think we take them from the wild...

They don't even know what they are bitching about.
 
the debate has never really been about just "going hunting" inside fences,...the debate is usually the "put and take" aspect,...and the so called "tv" people who try to make sure they never mention it. It really shows how much of hypocrits they are when they proclaim to be the one to "stand up" for fence hunting,...but then they never talk about the fence or the places they hunt,.....they have to "build" a story instead of just saying where they are and what they are doing. Explaining things and being 100 percent truthful is always the best policy. Intentional deception is never a good practice to be involved in.



just my two cents (that may only be worth a penny)





PT
 
One more aspect of high fence - it is where nearly all the pictures come from on the covers of all those outdoor magazines. Of course, no one mentions that either.
 
Wild Rivers Whitetails said:
One more aspect of high fence - it is where nearly all the pictures come from on the covers of all those outdoor magazines. Of course, no one mentions that either.
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I know most of our friends were SHOCKED when we showed the cover of Bowhunting or Bowhunter (whatever magazine it was) a couple of months ago and there was Laurie Prasnicki's RPM on the cover!! They (photographers) aren't getting all those great photos of big bucks out in the wild deer population!!
 
I normally don't jump in but....... we have had several "non high fence" hunters on our farm. Some get angry, some try to understand, and some just leave. What I've come to the conclusion of - It's all about jealousy. No matter what argument is brought up if you think about jealousy it will fit. Our policy has been - Educate the ones you can and listen "don't argue" with the ones you can't. So far it seems to work.

Example - had one 4 yrs ago that hated the thought of high fence. After coming to the farm and looking at the bucks for the last 4 yrs he went on a high fence hunt for hogs. It's a start.

Good luck,
 
Yes, we probably get 5-10 hunters each year that have never hunted high fence before. I can't think of one that didn't have a great time and has come back. They are a little apprehensive the first day out -but that vanishes when they start seeing big deer.



We've had a professional photographer take pics at our place for probably 8 or 9 years. He rarely takes any of our breeders but usually spends several weeks at our hunting preserve taking pics. Our bucks have been on just about every magazine you can name. In addition, they appear on calendars (one year the cover of Gander Mts) and in ads. Our lodge is decorated with framed magazine covers. We've run out of space.
 
One argument I often hear is you cannot enter a highfence trophy in B&C or P&Y record books. Therefore it must be either unethical or unsportman like. If this is the case let's better define hunting ethics and build a top 10 shame list. I'll name my top 10...you make your's. #1. poaching/illegal hunting #2. untrained hunters (weapons safety and proficiency, knowledge of game and hunting skills and stratagies) #3. overharvest of game species #4. unmanaged habitat #5. land stewardship ( taking care of hunting area, no garbage left behind, fences torn up, trespassing on property w/o land owners permission). #6.respecting the legal rights of others #7. respecting the differences in a "personal" trophy. #8. non-judgemental about another's wealth status or hunting interests. #9. advancing the hunting tradition and promote our priviledge to do so...and #10. from Winston Churchill..something like..."wishing to know your friends as well as you know your enemies". mixed in all these are dozens of instances that can fit one or more of these 10 examples I listed....I could ramble for hours about this topic.......Ol' Scrape.
 
Ol' Scrape, I couldn't agree more with you. My biggest complaint is the fact of trespassers and poachers. I can understand the arguement of whether "high fence hunting" is ethical or not. I can argue the state trout stockings and pheasant stockings all day long. It isn't for everyone, and if it's not for you then don't do it. But, don't disrespect anyone else that does want to do it. But whether things are ethical or not, it is not against the law, and poaching and trespassing are against the law.
 
I believe that B&C and P&Y should come up with a sepearte catagory for animals shot in a preserve or behind a high fence, this make total sense to me.

It would not be fair to compare Preserve animals to wild animals, we have the opportunity behing our fenses to control breeding and nutrition as well as age, none of these variables are totally controllable out side the fence.
 
Rick, the best way to keep this in perspective for US is remembering that their train doesn't run on our tracks! In my opinion (which wouldn't sway a fly) it's all spun from discrimination not incrimination elements. Discrimination is as immoral as you can get. It's defamation and intollerance. It's a roots caused issue. At the heart of the issue the disease of ignorance has become immune to behaviorable science. Ethics...this is much easier studied than expressed. If ethics is from a moral or a conscience foundation either must be derived from the totality of one of these two to be "sanctifiable". You just can't be 90% and call yourself moral or ethical. Why? Because your intentions will win out and your experiences will be the underlying factor governing the unknown. I better stop, I don't feel like proof reading this to see if I made my point!!! God Bless One and All, Ol' Scrape.
 
When someone calls me that is opposed to high fence, I usually ask them if they would like to come up and hunt a 200+ inch buck in the preserve for free. I'll let you decide what the answer is 100 percent of the time. These hunters are not opposed to hunting high fence they're opposed to the cost.
 
Good point tim. alot of it has to do with the all mighty dollar! If somebody cant afford it , it cant be any good, but give it for free and Id bet none refuse!!!
 

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