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Drugs, Drugs, Drugs!

Joined Sep 2009
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Ormond Beach, Fl.
What have you found to be the best way to approach your vet about getting immobilization drugs such as Xylazine etc.Have you found most Vets. are reluctant to sell their clients contolled substances knowing that the client may not know how to properly use them and then get blamed (or sued) when there is a problem. I know of at least one breeder that has taken the " Safe Capture" course to put his Vet at peace for this reason. Knowing there are hundreds of farmers out there using these drugs it must not be a big deal.I realize that each farmer owes it to his animals to learn every thing he can about the proper use of these chemicals.How did you approach your Vet and what was your experiece? What does one pay for a vial of Xylazine? If any Vets read this post, I would like to know your opinion too. Thanks, Tom
 
Xylazine is not hard to come by, I would think that your vet would have no problem selling that to you. It's the other's that can be tough if your vet dose not know you well. I think the main reason that some of the drug's are harder to get is that they can also be used as a street drug, why anyone in there right mind would want to use it as a street drug I dont understand. I think the last 50ml bottle of Xylazine I bought cost right around 50.00 As far as a drug like Telazol or Ketamine if the vet just give's that out to anyone that ask I doubt that he would remaine a vet for long.
 
When our vet did his first site inspection he was very reluctant to give us meds because he had know idea who we where, so instead of asking him for large quantities we would just ask him for 2 or 3 syringes filled with different meds and before I would use them I would talk to him about the problem and then follow up about the results. It took about a year to build his trust, but know we can get what ever we want. I think its hard for a vet until they get to know you very well. And if you put yourself in there position, there career is on the line. Build trust first it worked for us.
 
One thing I would encourage is to get you Vet interested in the Deer industry some vets that work on horses and larger animals are not findng as much work this is another outlet for them to make money. Some will some wont. We encouraged our vet to go with a well known Deer Vet that speaks at many large conferences to take our vet for 3 weeks and do AI he did and he will be doing our LAI this year. He was reluctanat at first.
 
l don't even think Xylazine is a controlled substance since it is not a narcotic. Either way though, you're right a vet will be reluctant to give sell drugs to anyone, build a relationship with him/her and you'll be set, theres really no other way
 
For a veterinarian to sell medication to a client requires a veterinary/client/patient relationship. So if the vet you contact does not want to do deer, they will not(or shouldn't) sell you any medication. When you find a veterinarian and once they have been to your place, feel out the situation, and educate you on how to use the medication they will likely sell you zylazine and +/- the telazol. The veterinarian will likely not sell it to you if they don't think you understand how to use it. Hope this helps.



Jerrilee Cave, DVM
 
I think all new farmers will experience the medication issue we did. Like Majestic said the fact of the matter is both you and your vet has to have a mutual agreement for your ability to store and use whatever medications are required.



We started small only 4 deer. Not all the deer are going to get sick all the time. So to keep the cost down, we kept just enough medicine on site for 1 deer based on various situations that our vet has seen. This actually worked out well.



So listen to your vet discuss options on what he thinks you should do. He has been in this position many times and he knows this will be over whelming to you. If you work with your vet more that working against him you will only strenghten your relationship with him. This will definitely make things better in the future when his services are really needed.



Hope this helps.
 
Warnerade said:
l don't even think Xylazine is a controlled substance since it is not a narcotic. Either way though, you're right a vet will be reluctant to give sell drugs to anyone, build a relationship with him/her and you'll be set, theres really no other way



Rompum might not be a controlled substance but my vet knew another vet in IA who was killed by heart failure after an accidental injection of it. Whether it was coindidence or the drug is unknown, but it would make me a little cautious when selling it, too.
 

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