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Indiana Opposition

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Here are the kind of lies the Indiana morons in opposition to high fence hunting publish.  They forgot to mention the Courts ruled we are 100% legal and that the Summer Study committee visited a preserve first hand and like what they saw and realized they had been lied to from all these made up organizations.


 


 


Long story short, this letter was sent out to all Indiana newspapers as a letter to the editor.



LETTER TO THE EDITOR




Hoosiers Don’t Shoot Livestock.




Indiana's Whitetail deer were once eliminated at the last turn of the Century by unregulated and commercial hunting. Led by Conservationists and paid for by sportsmen's dollars, the Indiana DNR has successfully restored whitetail deer to the abundance we Hoosiers all enjoy. Today over a quarter of a million hunters annually take to the field to enjoy viewing and possibly harvesting a deer. Millions more enjoy viewing this animal in the wild as a symbol of wild America.


However, Indiana's wild deer, as well as the sport which funds the management of the IDNR, are threatened once again by attempts to commercialize the animal and the sport. Representatives Sean Eberhart, David Ober and Don Lehe have introduced Legislation in the form of HB 1453 which would legalize the shooting of domestic farm raised deer in a penned enclosure for a large sum of money. For the last 15 years, the Industry has lobbied the legislature to allow this practice called "canned hunting� and we have seen at least one bill authored almost every year.


Despite the IDNR banning canned hunts, despite a lengthy, extremely informative Indy Star expose’ that laid open the industry for all to judge, despite the biggest Indiana canned hunt operator being convicted of running illegal canned hunts, despite a Legislative Summer Study Committee in which experts from across the nation warned of the spread of a fatal deer disease through the movement of captive deer into the killing pens, our legislators may still legalize canned hunting.


Every major deer hunting organization, conservation group, environmental group and a huge majority of the public are against this abomination.


Unless the public acts and calls their legislators and Governor Pence, HB 1453, the "canned hunting bill", may become law. Tell them, “Hoosiers don't shoot livestock."


Doug Allman Glenn Lange


Indiana Wildlife Federation Indiana Chapter of The Wildlife Society




Gene Hopkins Jeff Wells


Indiana Sportsmen’s Round Table Indiana Conservation Officer Organization


Joe Bacon James Turpin


Indiana Deer Hunters Association Quality Deer Management Association




Herb Higgins Chuck Bauer


Indiana Bow Hunter Association Indiana Div. of the Izaak Walton League of America
 
We are having some heated debate on the Facebook page tonight- Indiana Whitetail Deer Herd Management

Many of those who are our opposition here in Indiana are on the page. Y'all can comment on there and strengthen our side.

Weeks ago when we first begin to comment to the page we were persecuted. Now some of the administrators on the page have liked our comments and information about the captive industry. This is another example of how informing the uniformed makes a difference. Silence is consent.
 
I will talk of Africa hunting and compare it to what is gong in the USA today. 


Well, understand, it was cattle ranchers who pioneered the Game Industry in Zimbabwe, Africa.   They determined that game ranching made a viable land use alternative.  You can even go back in our history and see a pamphlet from USDA promoting deer farming in 1908,  What is happening now?  


In Zimbabwe, A bill was passed in their legislature that transferred wildlife authority [ownership] from the state, to the land.  Critics, criticized this, it would be the end of game, it would ruin wildlife.  Most of wildlife groups are against our preserve industry here, saying commercialization will destroy wildlife.  In Africa, the opposite happened, wildlife flourished.  Sport hunting proved profitable.  This put a value on wildlife, and a reason to save it.  Quoting from the   General Manager of the Conservancy, “ if there is no value on wildlife, there is no need to protect it.â€�  Again, ranchers saved wildlife in Africa.  They will here also.
12px; Many of these so called sportsmen seem to be a large patrons of preserve hunting in Africa, yet they criticize it here.  


They criticize our feeding of deer in our pens, yet in their own business, don’t they promote tower feeders and food plots on free-range deer?  Look at QDMA and their advertisers.  They may have had the same feed our deer get!!    I have seen more tower feeders in Texas on low fenced land than I have seen on preserves.  Texas is the largest producer and consumer of deer feeders.   Aren’t they also feeding these deer for better performance, thus growing larger racks??  Isn’t that against everything they are preaching to us?    Are they certifying the low-fenced land they hunt, that it has the proper cover to hunt, to allow fair chase?  Why do they want rules on one side of the fence, and not the other??   These guys dump feed on the roads, and the deer are trained to come up to feed.  How is this fair-chase, and ours is not?  They call us canned, but with their deer trained and dependant to come to feeders, how is that fair-chase?  These animals are trained to come up when they hear a vehicle.  It’s a free meal.  They have basically built an invisible fence around that herd.  Are they really free-range??  They are not going to leave their food source!!!  
12px; What makes wildlife important is the thrill the hunter gets when he gets his trophy, period!!!    Whether behind high or low fence.  The hunter needs to determine what his goals and values are.  Are they trying to form an “ethics policeâ€�, to tell hunters if they were on a real hunt??   
12px; (40,46,34);VerdanaAldo Leopold wrote, “A peculiar virtue in wildlife ethics is that the hunter ordinarily has no gallery to applaud or disapprove of his conduct. Whatever his acts, they are dictated by his own conscience, rather than a mob of onlookers. It is difficult to exaggerate the importance of this fact.â€�   (40,46,34);VerdanaIn his book, Beyond Fair Chase, Jim Posewitz noted, “The most important measure of hunting success is how you feel about yourself…â€�  Why is it now that we have groups of hunters that criticize other hunters?  With PETA and HSUS looming in the shadows, are we are own worst enemy?
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So Hoosiers don't shoot livestock.  Fine, most of their hunters will probably come from out of state.  No one says Hoosiers have to shoot anything anywhere they don't want to.  Not surprised to see QDMA opposing this.  They will lose all of their supporters if people figure out it is easier to go to a hunting preserve than try to keep deer on their own property when their neighbors philosophy is if it is brown it is down. It isn't so much that they oppose things, they are trying to protect their turf and see us as a threat.  In a free market society competition just weeds out the less desirable places!
 
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So Hoosiers don't shoot livestock.  Fine, most of their hunters will probably come from out of state.  No one says Hoosiers have to shoot anything anywhere they don't want to.  Not surprised to see QDMA opposing this.  They will lose all of their supporters if people figure out it is easier to go to a hunting preserve than try to keep deer on their own property when their neighbors philosophy is if it is brown it is down. It isn't so much that they oppose things, they are trying to protect their turf and see us as a threat.  In a free market society competition just weeds out the less desirable places!




Exactly
 
Indiana also does not have a Youth Mentor program.  I was reading the QDMA yearly report and it said that Ohio and Kentucky does not either.  This was very surprising to me.  How do they expect to keep hunters in the woods replacing those that can no longer hunt????  It was also surprising to me that the have chapters at Universities, they have one at Purdue but only have three reps in this state.  its a good read if you have time, even though it is the basically the opposition it gives you perspective of the trends in what is shot and other stats. 
 

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I believe that those in our industry who have been fighting the government in court should look at the EAJA- Equal Access to Justice Act as a possible means of recovering attorney fees. This is a law that is often used by environmental groups and was designed to help small businesses recover legal cost when the government is taken to court. Is this just in federal court cases?

If this isn't possible could someone explain why. I am far from a lawyer.