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Is this the right place?

Joined Mar 2012
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Hardin County, TX
I have been reading up on here and many many other places about raising some deer. Unlike most it seems here I just want to raise a few for pets and to put one in the freezer when I'd like to. We dont eat much beef and venison is in just about every meal around my place so it would be nice to have some fresh available to us to process and use. I'm interested in raising Whitetail, Axis, Fallow, Red Stag, and or Mule deer. Not dead set on anything but leaning more toward axis and whitetail due to the availability and quality of meat. Having some nice antlers to look at for me is a bit secondary.



The place I have set aside to fence is about 3 acres, but I will soon be purchasing the 10 adjoining my property in the back and adding on to the high fence in the future. I know this is relatively small compared to most but I believe it should be enough.



I am not unfamiliar to farming in general and my property is way away from everyone else and is in the middle of an older timber company tract thats not being harvested anymore, its nice and secluded and I have wild whitetail all over my place, Ive seen tracks as close as 10ft from my back steps.



I like in Southeast Texas and theres lots of people around that have deer but none I have contacted directly.



My main questions are where to find fence that will do the job but not cost as much as my new truck, watering/feeding setups, pen setups etc... All I've really done fence-wise is chain-link fro the dogs and 5 strand barb wire for the horses cows weve had growing up.



ANy links, emails, phone numbers or points of contact and information will be greatly appreciated.
 
BlackGold,



With all due respect, I'll bet you a dollar you want be able to harvest a deer that you raised from birth for venison. Just saying.........
 
If you have 10 acre's you will have plenty of ground to raise more deer than you will want for pet's or freezer meat.

If you are in Texes finding 8 foot fence should be easy, I have seen it at several of the farm store's there.
 
Split-Hoof said:
BlackGold,



With all due respect, I'll bet you a dollar you want be able to harvest a deer that you raised from birth for venison. Just saying.........



Why not? I've raised plenty of animals from birth, bottle fed etc... then served them up on the grille LOL. I'm not a cold hearted SOB but, I do understand the animal's purpose and can differentiate between the two.



My main questions were about fence type and feed/water I guess. I know I can get fence pretty easily but didnt know wif there was a certain type that was better than the other.



I guess I may sound like jack-the-ripper or something but the wife is actually on board with this idea (for a change) and while I may have to have "her deer" that wont go on the table and "my deer" that might ultimately end up in the freezer, I think it will be a fun change and an interesting animal to raise. I have two small minitaure dashchunds and their fence will adjoin down one side but there will be privacy slats in the chain link so there wont be any running the deer down the fence or anything like that. the fence will go into the ground to so there wont be any digging into the deer pen. Mainly, they say inside and only go out to play a while and do their business. Were just getting good and settled on this property and its time to start putting some fencing in for all the animals/plans so....





Also, breed chioce. Is my axis and whitetail idea about right? I wouldnt mind having some antlers to look at but like I said, thats not the main intent. What other type of deer or exotics should be considered??
 
BlackGold - I've never eaten axis or fallow(had heard before that it was good though), but I know sika is out of this world good...puts whitetail to shame, and I love my whitetail...eat it all year long. I'm getting out of the whitetail business, and have thought very seriously of attaining some sikas for the table.



Concerning fence, I've used 'Solid Lock' and I've used 'Tight Lock'...both are high tinsel. The Solid Lock was more expensive, but in my opinion and for my purposes, it was worth the extra money. The Solid Lock had smaller squares on the bottom which help to prevent small newborns from escaping, and the 'locks' on the squares held tighter than on the ''Tight Lock'' fence. Solid Lock also seemed to be a better quality ''high tinsel''...seemed stiffer.

Sika deer = tasty tasty tender meat...I promise!!

The best to you BlackGold!
 
Good advice Mark, thanks!



I've heard the same about sika but don't know how hard they'll be to get my hands on around here. I made some axis sausage and some boudin out of a big axis doe I killed last year and it was by far the best venison I've had. I've had many types but never fallow so that'll definitely be considered. Red deer and mulies are also pretty good if prepared correctly. I usually mix a bit of beef brisket in with my ground meat and sausage (my sausage is venison of any type, pork butts, and brisket, seasonings etc) it usually turns out great! I've been making pork and venison sausage and processing my own animals for a good many years now. Never messed with making jerky either, but that's on my to-do list for sure.
 
G'day BackGold

I've chital (axis) & both European & Persian fallow.A six foot fence depending on your laws will be more than enough to keep them.

These species rarely twin.The chital will have four calves every three years though, as the hinds cycle again 3 weeks after birth.Like most asiatics there is no well defined rut.

The fallow only rut once a year,but are more domesticated & easier to work with than chital.

The chital have a broader dietry range & are much less fussy than fallow about the quality of feed.

Chital stags & fallow bucks dont grow thier best heads till about seven so producing big boys takes some investment.

I never run these species together,but I often run the chital with sambar without problems.Chital will hybridise with all the various rusa & hog deer.

I sometimes run up to 100 chital stags in hard antler together with the hinds with few problems (never in enclosures smaller than 40 acres though & bigger is better).This would cause problems with fallow.If the fallow bucks are left in antler,then they(the bachelour herd) are out of sight & smell of the does.Only one master buck & a yearling are left with the does & I keep him in antler.If I have two "equal" bucks with the does they would kill each other.Many Chital stags can usually be left together with hinds in large enclosures as their courtship is very different.



The chital are a pain to work but they look after themselves better than the fallow.I can generally choose when I want to work the chital wereas the fallow seem to take up a lot more time.

Having said this chital would not be the best species for a "first deer",whereas fallow would be good to start with.



For eating I find hog deer the best,then chital,rusa & fallow at the moment.

The various species of reds next,including sika & elk & sambar as the toughest.



Beware! Once you have the deer disease the only relief is more deer.



Cheers Sharkey
 
Blackgold, on upcoming episodes of our TV show we are going to show starting a small deer farm from start to finish. We will show it from square one until we have deer there. It might be of interest to you. We air on the Pursuit channel, Directv 608 and Dish 240 on Thursday nights at 7 PM and again on Mondays at 10 AM. Also, we are on Dish 232 Rural TV on Saturdays 11:30 AM, 4:30 PM, 11 PM, and Sundays at 12:30 PM and 4:30 PM. The show is Wild Rivers Whitetails - hope you get a chance to watch.
 
We are filming now so probably not for a few weeks yet. We hope to do a segment each week or so during our regular show to keep following what is happening on the new farm. Will sort of depend on how fast things move. As we all know, things don't usually move as quickly as we'd like.



It should be informative and interesting. Other upcoming shows will be about TB testing and sawing antlers for one. We also hope to do a show about semen processing. If folks have ideas on things they'd like to see shoot us an email - we may or may not be able to work it in.
 
I doubt I'll be able to get that at all on the TV here. Any way I can find and purchase a copy of the episode (or season?) on DVD?
 
We currently have season one available which is the first 13 weeks which is wrapping up right now. When the second 13 weeks are done we will probably sell that season as well. Do you get the Pursuit channel on Directv, channel 608, or Dish on 240? We are on those channels. Go to our website at www.wildriverswhitetails.com and click on TV show and you will get all the times and channels and also how to order a season of DVDs.
 
BlackGold, If you want to be able to slaughter them, in Texas you will have to go with axis or fallow. You can't slaughter white-tailed deer in Texas as they belong to the state. As far as axis vs. fallow deer go, in my opinion fallow deer are much easier to work with.



Russ
 
BlackGold, we have fallow deer. We are still learning but have found them to be quite easy to manage, except when the bucks are in rut. We have safety protocol (2 people at all times when entering the pen) and we enter the pen in a calm and easy manner.



Russ how can the state of Texas own a farmer's livestock?
 
In Texas they are not the farmers livestock. The law says that all white-tailed deer inside the borders of Texas belong to the people of Texas. Fallow and Axis, since they are non native, are livestock. We are working on getting the law changed but I'm not sure the majority of the people support that right now.
 
So a hunter with a tag could shoot a deer in a pen and its legal then? That just doesn't sound right!