Wayne very true. Usually when I have a bad mother, it's a first time mother. Sometimes they don't know to clean rear ends, sometimes they only care for one of the twins, and sometimes they seem to have no interest in even cleaning off the fawns. I have never had a bad mother over 2 years old. It's always just the occasional first timer. Then by their second set, for the most part, they all seem to be polar opposite, they love their babies and do great.