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US Fish and Wildlife Permit -- Required or not?

Joined Apr 2011
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Minnesota
Hello from North Oaks,



We've maintained a US Fish and Wildlife import/export License for our Red Deer herd for years and I just got a notice to send in another $100 to renew.



Would anyone on this forum know if this is actually required for anything? We've never been required to show it to anyone during shipment.



Red Deer are close cousins to Elk but not indigenous to North America, so I'm not sure if US Fish and Wildlife have any jurisdiction over our animals how we transport them and who we sell to. We did get our animals originally from Canada and we do ship back to Canada occasionally.



Save me a $100 with a good (legal) answer and I'll buy you a beer at the NADeFA conference this year in TX....



Will
 
Importing and Exporting Your

Commercial Wildlife Shipment



How do I import or export my commercial wildlife shipment?

Generally, you must import or export your shipment through one of our designated ports , declare your shipment to us on a special form , and receive clearance from us for your shipment.



In most cases, you must be licensed with us and pay user fees for each shipment.



What is wildlife?

Wildlife is any living or dead wild animal, its parts, and products made from it. Wildlife not only includes mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians, and fish, but also invertebrates such as insects, crustaceans, arthropods, molluscs and coelenterates.



What about animals that are captive-born or bred, or hatched in captivity?

These animals and their parts, products, eggs, and offspring are also wildlife.



How do you define import?

Any wildlife introduced or brought into, or landed on, any place under U.S. jurisdiction is an import.



How do you define export?

Any wildlife that departs, is sent, or shipped from, is carried out of, or is consigned to a carrier from a place under U.S. jurisdiction with a destination outside of the United States is an export.



Does U.S. Customs and Border Protection use the same definitions?

No. Our rules apply to some shipments that Customs does not consider imports or exports.

http://www.fws.gov/le/ImpExp/CommWildlifeImportExport.htm







or maybe



IMPORT REQUIREMENTS OF CANADA FOR FARMED CERVIDS FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

"Cervine" refers to members of the family: Cervidae; subfamily: Cervinae; subfamily: Capreolinae, subfamily: Hydropotinae and subfamily: Muntiacinae.

* Included is the Genus: Rangifer, Species R. Tarandus (reindeer) raised in the lower 49 states.

1. GENERAL REQUIREMENTS

1.1 All cervids imported into Canada require an import permit issued by a Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) office prior to the arrival of the shipment at a port of entry (Sections 12 and 160, Health of Animals Regulations).

1.2 Cervids imported into Canada must be animals that have been born and raised in captivity as “farmed cervids” and originate from herds that have been in existence for at least three (3) years and in which there have been no additions of cervids from the wild since 2001.

1.3 Farmed cervids for import must originate from a herd that is a Certified Brucellosis-Free cervid herd and a Tuberculosis Accredited herd (captive cervid) according to United States Code of Federal Regulation (CFR) and Uniform Methods and Rules definitions.

1.4 Farmed cervids presented for import must be uniquely identified with permanent identification. Permanent identification may be a US Department of Agriculture (USDA) metal eartag in both ears or a nationally approved radio frequency identification (RFID) tag or a national/state approved uniquely numbered dangle tag. Permanent identification must be able to link animals to herd of origin and all herds of residence.

1.5 If not already part of permanent identification, farmed cervids presented for import must bear a numeric dangle tag in either ear that can be read at a distance. The dangle tag must correlate all permanent identification in the animal as well as a description of the animal detailing species, breed if applicable, color, sex, age and any identifying marks, all of which must be recorded on the required health certificate.

1.6 Farmed cervids may only be imported into Canada from the United States if the animals are transported directly to the Canada-United States border from the place of origin in the United States where they were tested in accordance with the import permit.

1.7 Farmed cervids must be accompanied by a certificate of an official veterinarian of the United States or a certificate of a veterinarian licensed in the United States and endorsed by an official veterinarian of the United States. The certificate must contain the name and address of the consignor, the location where the animal is exported from and the name and address of the consignee. The certificate must also clearly identify the animal and show that the animal was inspected by a veterinarian within thirty (30) days preceding the date of importation, that the animal was found to be free from any communicable disease and that the animal was, to the best of the knowledge and belief of the veterinarian, not exposed to any communicable disease

within sixty (60) days preceding the date of the inspection.

1.8 An animal that was born after its mother was tested is not required to meet the test requirements in this document if the animal is imported into Canada at the same time as its mother. An animal that was born after its mother was tested, unless it was born en route to Canada, must be identified with permanent identification and recorded on the health certificate of its mother.

1.9 Farmed cervids imported into Canada will be quarantined to the importing premises and test requirements listed in this document repeated after sixty (60) days. Results on all imported animals in a group must be negative before quarantine can be released.



http://www.aphis.usda.gov/regulations/vs/iregs/animals/downloads/ca_cd.pdf





It looks like it would fall under the USDA..at least that's how I read it.
 
Thanks fars, the interpretation from the first quote you provided on "What is Wildlife" could extend to any Llama, Alpaca, goat, chicken, sheep, cattle, etc.



As usual regulation are written so broadly as to encompass anything the agency in question chooses to clamp down can be clamped down on.



"Wildlife means anything we damn well want it to mean, including YOU and your children. Ausweiss, bitte !!"



Guess I'll get my papers in order. The beer is yours, fars. Hope to see you at NADeFA.
 
Only because I cannot leave it well enough alone and just submit my $100 to the bureaucratic State, I thought I'd share my letter to the US FWS seeking clarity on their jurisdiction over captive Red Deer and the definition of "Wild Animal."



I'll post any findings. -- Will



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Sent to US FWS on 1/24/2012 via "Contact" on the USFWS website.



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I have a question regarding the RED DEER species that we farm in MN. As there are no existing herds in the wild in the US, are these considered "wild animals" by the US FWS ? There are several RED DEER (Cervus elaphus elaphus) farms in the US and I work on one in MN. I contacted USFWS at my local office and was directed to resources on the FWS website to check for myself. I see nothing specific to our species on the website. Red Deer as are farmed in the US and overseas should not be confused with endangered Corsican Red Deer (C. e. corsicanus) or Elk (c. canadensis). Does the USFWS have jurisdiction on regulating the import/export of our farmed red deer (Cervus elaphus elaphus)? This is a regulatory question based on taxonomy and what is considered "Wild" in the US. I'd like an answer supported by existing regulatory laws before I purchase an import/export license. Thank you for your time !

Will Slade, North Oaks Farms
 
So if the US FWS has not determined that an animal is domestic and put it on its list of domestic animals (link below), apparently it's Wild.



Though there are no wild population of Red Deer in the US and I suspect that there are no wild populations of Fallow or Sika or several other species of special cervidae, they are all under US FWS jurisdiction for import/export, too. As are your children.







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Dear Will,



Thank you for your inquiry regarding farm raised red deer. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service"s mission is, working with others, to conserve, protect and enhance fish, wildlife, and plants and their habitats for the continuing benefit of the American people.



The red deer, Cervus elaphus, is not considered a domesticated species, and is therefore, subject to U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service export requirements. You can view our list of domesticated species at: http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/tex...iv8&view=text&node=50:1.0.1.2.8.1.7.4&idno=50



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Thank you for your cooperation in complying with our regulations that help protect fish, wildlife, and plants and their habitats. Please feel free to respond to this message with any further inquiries that you may have regarding this matter.
 
Intresting. Thanks for posting the answer! Have any large stags this last year in MN?
 
Hi fars,



We had decent growth with our 5 year olds but we had a few older stags who went backward and we did not have any real "world class" Stags. We typically see a few over 500" Stags every other year, but 2011 was not our year. Reports from other Red Deer farms and the Elk guys we know were unanimous: 2011 was weak compared to 2010. The very long and cold winter of 2010-2011 and cool wet spring may have had something to do with it.



We're excited for 2012. We have some promising Stags coming up that looked really good as 4 year olds and a few older Stags, too.



Let me know if you'd like to come by. My contact info is here:

www.http://northoaksfarms.com/



cheers,

Will